Some further discussions on account usernames and passwords, and preparation for Sannce P2P account Registration
(4th username / password pair ( and 2nd username / password pair ) )

The 4 basic password/ username pairs were introduced here: https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ware#post16050
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post16050

This post attempts to both
_ clarify the situation related to the password/ username pairs which I numbered/ refer to as 2nd and 4th.
_ to advise of preparations for encountering 4th for the first time, ( the Sannce P2P account Registering process ), since typically it can be full of problems and bugs.

The 4th and final encountered password/ username pairs can sometimes be confused with the second, and they are related.
As far as I can tell the 4th password/ username pair relates to an account to gain access to some remote cloud type storage either at, or organised, by Sannce. With this account you can arrange that details of a DVR are held at this storage. Those details make it possible to make a P2P remote connection.
There is , in the first instance**, no limit to the number of such a Sannce P2P account that you can have. There is also no requirement to have made any payment or purchase.
You could probably compare some aspects of the Registering process of such an account with the registering of a gmail Email account. In fact you will need an Email account during to the Registering process. The Registering process can be very tricky, - not all usernames and passwords and Email accounts may work. A gmail account has a good chance to work.
There are other bugs and problems. The biggest problem, in short, is: If for any reason your registration fails , which it often does, then you will most likely not be able to use the username and Email address that you tried to Register with ever again in a Sannce P2P Registration.

Clarification of the situation related to the password/ username pairs which I numbered 2 and 4. ( and 1 )
I named the “2nd password and username” pair the 2nd … _ pair because you encounter it typically very early on, just after you encounter the very first, most fundamental password and username pair . ( The first most fundamental pair is that which you need in order to
_ do anything in the settings of your DVR in a direct way via a mouse and monitor
, and you also you
_ need it for the simplest way ( local LAN access ) to access the DVR with a computer ,- what you might call a local or semi-remote way )
The second password and username you encounter early on, even if you follow any simple “quick start” or “Quick Operation Guide”, is not typically referred to as a password and username. It could be consider as the password and username required for accessing the DVR in a truly remote way. This truly remote way could be considered as meaning
_ remote access in some way across the world wide web internet – your DVR and computer are separated by a large physical distance and there is no simple direct connection either by a cable or a local wireless system or Local Wireless Area Network
Just for comparison , a local or semi-remote way could be considered as meaning
_ access via a computer “locally” – LAN type access – when your computer and DVR are connected to the same router or modem or server or are in some other way connected to the same Local Area Network

Just a quick clarify on that last stuff:

_1st username password pair_________________ 2nd username password pair
__ Monitor __________Computer________________________________Computer
__ DVR---Monitor______DVR-modem/router-Computer___________________ DVR-modem---Internet(P2P)-----modem-Computer
__HDMI or VGA _________local__________________________________remote
Cable connection____LAN (Ethernet cable) __________( computer can be physically a large distance away from DVR )
_______________________WLAN______________________________ world wide web Internet

The final 4th username and password is required for a particular way ( P2P via Sannce ) of the truly remote way and so the 2nd username and/or password may be required at times when the final 4th username and password is required. This is one reason why these two are sometimes confused with each other. The 2nd is concerned with the decision to allow such use. The 4th is concerned with the authority of holding of the technical information needed to make it possible. This is possibly a strange idea and concept. Hence another reason easy to get confused.
Another reason for the confusion is that at the time that you ( often unconsciously ) set the password of the 2nd username and password pair, there may be a reference to Sannce or Sannce Home. For example this is a screen shot from approximately the 5th – 9th screen view that you see during the initial quick set up on first use of your DVR connectred to a Monitor.
( Which screenshot it is may vary slightly on what options you take or what exact DVR model you have ) .
( This is also a screenshot that you can get at later via settings using a mouse and the monitor )
https://i.postimg.cc/jq39qtVF/Enable...remote-use.jpg
You will see in that screen got the word Sannce Home, whereas I would suggest a more appropriate thing to use would be something like “Remote Access Password”
Typically when following a “quick start” or “Quick Operation Guide” , you would check the Enable box , and then chose a Verification Code. I chose arbitrarily Sannce2 , abd that becomes what I refer to as the password in the 2nd username and password pair. I would suggest a more appropriate thing to use rather than Verification Code would be something like “Password” followed by some note saying that the corresponding username is the part number of your DVR.
Usually when you fill in the details when following a “quick start” or “Quick Operation Guide” it is not obvious what is going on there: This is what you are actually doing:
_Checking Enable allows the DVR to be used remotely , ( that is to say via a computer rather than just with a monitor directly connected to the DVR with a HDMI or VGA cable )
_ when you set up the P2P remote usage, in Guarding Vision software, you will be asked to fill in two entries in a typical log in type pop up. https://i.postimg.cc/V6tQTWFm/Fill-i...ation-Code.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/4Nktr4Xg/Second...sword-pair.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Jhvc0NCy/Add-To-List-P2-P.jpg
The first entry may be referred to as the username or serial number or device name , and the second entry may be referred to as the Verification Code or password. My DVR has on the underside on a label something written like SN: F53992124
So in all my discussions I have 2nd username and password pair of
F53992124
Sannce2


Advise of preparations for encountering 4th username/ password pair for the first time, ( the Sannce P2P account Registering process )
_.... see next post