Test Video,YouTube, Video making and editing, etc. coupled to excelfox (OBS)

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Try Releases 17.0.2 32Bit (Jan 19, 2017 ) Portable

From here https://github.com/obsproject/obs-st...ses/tag/17.0.2
https://i.postimg.cc/7hBrYzXN/Releas...2-Full-zip.jpg
OBS-Studio-17.0.2-Full.zip https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T-e...?usp=drive_web
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T-eefdP3IyH0OCELFEBhkyCLj6UOPLsg/view?usp=drive_web

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Try Releases 17.0.2 (32Bit) (Jan 19, 2017 ) Portable

Get it
We get the .zip thing containing it all from somewhere. Here a few ideas,
Either
from the OBS GitHub releases page
https://github.com/obsproject/obs-st...ses/tag/17.0.2
https://i.postimg.cc/7hBrYzXN/Releas...2-Full-zip.jpg
Or, here I have it in a few places :
Share ‘OBS-Studio-17.0.2-Full.zip’ https://app.box.com/s/qyxynp8893cvftdhmmzg90brobdji44w
OBS-Studio-17.0.2-Full.zip https://magentacloud.de/s/f5bnBsydskLqQMQ
OBS-Studio-17.0.2-Full.zip https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T-e...?usp=drive_web

Unzip it
The word zip may not explain things so well. A .zip file seems to be a file squashed or compressed to reduce its size, but die to this it is not much use in that squashed form. It is often represented by a Folder symbol with a zip in the middle. So maybe it is finally something like a folder with all the stuff we want squashed in it, like sardines in a sardine tin. I will call it a zip Folder/File thing.
So once we have the zip Folder/File thing we need to put it back to its more useful unsquashed form , - that is often referred to as unzipping it.
There seem to be a few ways to do this. In newer windows it seems to happen automatically if you go into the .zip folder like zip Folder/File thing, and either drag the contents somewhere or copy them and paste them somewhere. I often copy the contents and paste them back in the same real folder holding the zip Folder/File thing. So I end up with the zip Folder/File thing and the useful unsquashed version of the files that were in it.

This sort of set of actions for example to Get it and unzip it( This example I get it from the GitHub OBS releases page):
Download the zip Folder/File thing into some convenient normal folder, ( on a USB stick ) https://i.postimg.cc/5yPxsZwm/10-download.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/GmTcjg9k/20-downloaded.jpg
Take a look inside the zip Folder/File thing by double clicking on it https://i.postimg.cc/Gp0bgPs6/30-look-inside-it.jpg
Copy or drag the contents back into the normal Folder https://i.postimg.cc/pTRRR2CZ/40-dra...py-it-back.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/j2jTnZGn/50-bei...ain-folder.jpg
You should end then with something like this https://i.postimg.cc/vBhMmpSd/60-Cop...mal-Folder.jpg

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Make Entry for Standard local Device - + Add an actual type to the standard type management presented to us by default
So , as explained in the last post, on opening Guarding Vision software for the first time, a device type had been added automatically. We could call this a local or standard device.
A Standard device could be any directly / locally connected device, so can include our PC LAN Access

One way to make this entry is to use the +Add button of the large window in which things are written in / Added
https://i.postimg.cc/sxXB3wbK/Add-Button.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/tTDZ0LvY/Add-a-...ice-Button.jpg
That is a fully acceptable way to Add a particular device, but as we have an Online Device showing in the Online Device window below , ( which is the one we want to Add ) , we can take advantage of the button by the Online Device window to add that device. This way has the advantage of adding in some of the details for us: The basic entry dialogue boy that comes up is identical to that which comes up with the standard Add button of the large window , but on opening after using the +Add to Client button, some of the entries will be already written for us: https://i.postimg.cc/XvfBLZwK/Add-a-...ent-Button.jpg – Specifically the local address in our LAN network of our DVR , 192.168.2.100
We need to write in two entries, the User name and Password pair, which we discussed as the first user name and password pair that we met , which we named “ userame and password pair by first time DVR with Monitor, and needed in later LAN use on a computer “
admin
Sannce.!*
( We also need to add a “Nickname” of our choice. This will be used as a name on any button to select this device. It can be any name we chose. I personally prefer to use something to help remind me what it is referring to, something like
DVR_LAN _ DN81BL _F53992124

So we fill in the three bars and hit the Add button in the Add dialogue box, https://i.postimg.cc/vZ6V12TN/Add-a-...ent-Button.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/3wYFHdJv/Fill-i...en-LAN-add.jpg
Since we are accessing a local directly connected device, this connection/Adding process , ( typically referred to as Importing ) will usually be very quick.
A small black window bottom right to confirm the success will typically pop up just for a very short time , https://i.postimg.cc/q7VC2cCM/Importing-Succeeded.jpg , and this ,along with the details appearing in the main window including the Net Status** symbol indicating a working connection, https://i.postimg.cc/GhfDmnLD/Net-Status-Good.jpg , will mean that almost certainly we can view our cameras now on our computer. This viewing is always done in a similar way for any added devices, but note that after the first viewing there is a small change to allow quicker viewing on any subsequent viewing. More detail on this viewing in the next post.






Summary: Our first ( device management ) action
So, at this stage, we opened the Guarding Vision PC Client Software for the first time, which by default had added a device type, ( a simple local device type) , and we had an online device showing, ( - our DVR was showing because we had connected it via a LAN cable to the same modem/router as our computer).
Because our DVR was showing as an online device, this simplified the adding of a particular simple local device, our DVR, which we did in this post.

We are not viewing anything yet on our computer, as we have just done some managing of the DVR. ( The next post takes the simple steps to now actually do our first viewing with a computer )

https://i.postimg.cc/g2vH5vdp/Finish...LAN-device.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/BQtDWR94/Finish...LAN-device.jpg
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( Note in those last screenshots we have scrolled to the right in the second ( right ) screenshot to get all information )








( **Note , incidentally, that the Net Status is referring to the online status of the computer, and is not an indication of the status of the LAN cable connection to the DVR . ( Should the computer go off line, the Net Status will change thus: https://i.postimg.cc/637LBrgr/Net-St...er-Offline.jpg ) )

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Viewing cameras on Computer ( for first time )

The viewing on a computer via Guarding Vision Software, of a camera , or cameras, which are connected to the DVR can be done at any subsequent time via the uppermost small View tab,
https://i.postimg.cc/SK2nSyVY/View-M...-first-use.jpg

View

_#_Main View______

,( but note that after the first time of taking this action , an extra larger Main View main tab will appear and from then on it is always there , https://i.postimg.cc/rp5GgCWp/New-Ma...se-of-View.jpg )

_#_Main View_

The + and - ,
https://i.postimg.cc/2jGwPwtb/Main-View-Showing.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/HsPtLLdT/Main-View-Showing.jpg
,are an indication of an added device.

( If we were to Delete this device, https://i.postimg.cc/8cZmMpvB/Delete-device.jpg , the entry remains when Viewing , but we lose the camera view and the drop down list resulting in no indicated + or - , https://i.postimg.cc/sxyx45z5/No-vie...t-No-shown.jpg

If , after Deleteing a device, we re add it using the same Nickname then we will not get a duplicate entry in any View window: In general any Nickname appearing will remain there, and having or not having the + or - is the indication of whether that named device is actually available/ has been Added



The Software will in general always be cycling through to keep the camera views updated / refreshed. This process can often get stuck, or it may be slowly checking through all camera ports on the DVR, even those to which no camera is connected . To “wake up” the system we have the possibility to refresh/ restart a camera group, https://i.postimg.cc/pLhJ5tLz/Main-V...ossibility.jpg ,or alternatively a double click on a camera from the groups drop down list, https://i.postimg.cc/fLYkdBGw/double...to-wake-up.jpg , will also act to “wake up” / re start the viewing using that particular camera, https://i.postimg.cc/mrvth06X/double...wake-it-up.jpg

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Step 2b: P2P Access
2b) Remote ( Cloud P2P ) Access of DVR over the internet with a PC using Guarding Vision Windows PC Client Software

Step 2b: P2P Access

Remote ( Cloud P2P ) Access of DVR over the internet with a PC using Guarding Vision Windows PC Client Software

Most published instructions for Remote ( Cloud P2P ) Access of the Sannce DVR over the internet with a PC using Guarding Vision Windows PC Client Software are incomplete or incorrect. ( Example the section from Step 2b: P2P Access at the following Sannce article is wrong and incomplete, https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision-
Similarly the Sannce article here , https://help.annke.com/hc/en-us/articles/4405215514905 , is incorrect

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2b)

Remote ( Cloud P2P ) Access of DVR over the internet with a PC using Guarding Vision Windows PC Client Software,
2b) -A- ______ Following on from previously obtaining LAN local access, and
Adding ( making available ) DVR for remote Cloud use for the first time: DVR is not yet Registered for P2P remote Access

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15912

2b) -B- Cloud P2P remote access if you know the password and username of Sannce registered account holding DVR P2P relevant information

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15918

2b) -C- Cloud P2P remote access if no Sannce registered account holds DVR information
Possible Problem! Need to remove details of DVR from Sannce registered devices

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15919

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https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...6060#post16060

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Advise of preparations for encountering 4th username/ password pair for the first time,
( the Sannce P2P account Registering process )

Sannce organise something like a central register/ data storage facility, making it possible for various technical details required for remote P2P type internet usage of you DVR to be stored and accessed. P2P technology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_file_sharing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_P2P
The Sannce DVR model in use with the Guarding Vision Software on a PC, insists that you use such an account if you wish to use the P2P remote access possibility with your DVR to get access to your DVR over the internet ( from anywhere in the world ) using the world wide web internet.
You necessarily need to register such an account, and typically you will be asked to register such an account when using the Guarding Vision Software on your computer.
It’s free and there is no limit to how many account you can have. But the registering is full of problems and bugs. Many of these problems and bugs seem to get worse if you do not do the registering quickly. Hence one of the main reasons for this post is to prepare all you need before hand so as to improve your chances of a successful registration.

If for any reason your registration fails , you will most likely not be able to use the username and Email address that you tried to Register with ever again in a Sannce P2P Registration. Therefore I recommend preparing at least two full sets of the three things you need. Put them in a text file or in some other place where you can get at them easily and quickly when you are using your computer for the registration. These three things are
[color=black]_Username
_Password
_ Email address[/color]
For reasons of which I do not yet fully understand, some character combinations and Email addresses work better than others.
I would recommend therefore using similar ones to the example that I give.
I would further recommend using gmail Email address.
I would recommend keeping the gmail username as short as possible. I would recommend making at least 2 spare new gmail accounts initially.
I would recommend using a Username and gmail username that is not important to you, at least in your first attempts. - The main reason why I recommend this is that if for any reason your registration fails , which it often does, then you will most likely not be able to use the username and Email address that you tried to Register with ever again in a Sannce P2P Registration. Possibly later, once you are more comfortable and have possibly mastered the registering successfully, you could then risk using a preferred Username and gmail address.

I would recommend you register beforehand at least 2 gmail Email accounts ( https://accounts.google.com/signup/v...owEntry=SignUp ) , and then prepare a text file , .txt , or Word file , .doc , looking something like the following example. In this following example I have two complete lists of the info needed to register , and in addition I have also included the 2nd username and password pair. There are no great problems associated with using this other pair, but as they are often needed shortly after registering, it is convenient to have them at hand along with the other information

Register Account  ( Annke Sannce Registered Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P App  Sannce Home  Account User Name and Password by Email Address )
User Name                                       cloudplop
Password                                          SangyP2P.!*  
Confirm Password                                      SangyP2P.!*
Email Address                                          poo2peey@gmail.com 

Register Account         ( Annke Sannce Registered Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P App  Sannce Home   Account User Name and Password by Email Address  )
User Name                                       cloudpooh
Password                                          SangyP2P.!*  
Confirm Password                                       SangyP2P.!*
Email Address                                           plop2pee@gmail.com 


Remote Enabled DVR serial No.Sannce Home Verification Code2
Username DVR SN.                                                   F12345678
Enabled Password verification code           Sanky2

So when prompted to register, this would be the relevant things to write in or paste in
cloudplop
SangyP2P.!*
SangyP2P.!*
poo2peey@gmail.com

If anything went wring, then I would not attempt to use the Username or Email address again , ( there is no problem in trying the password again ) , so I would start again with this
cloudpooh
SangyP2P.!*
SangyP2P.!*
plop2pee@gmail.com

Here are three screenshots of the typical Registration process: Initially a window indicates the 4 main full width fields that need to be filled in , the username, the password ( twice ) and an Email address. After filling in all 4 fields, you should click on Send Message. This should send an Email to the Email address containing a number. That number should be entered in the bottom left half width field, and then finally you click on Register https://i.postimg.cc/15QXxWV4/3-pics...ter-window.jpg
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Often after registering, I would be doing something requiring me to do a so called “ + Adding” of a device ( usually the device would be my DVR ). I would then be asked to fill in one or more of two fields ( in some situations the first field would be already filled in )
The information I would then need to give would either be the second or both of these
F12345678
Sanky2

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Some typical problems
In the next screenshot, the all the usernames and Email addresses are known to have never resulted in a successful Register of an account. Originally they ere accepted but the final registration failed, for example due to the not being able to be completed within a certain time. So no registered account uses any of the usernames and Email addresses.
Despite trying different computers, Browsers, waiting several days, deleting cookies , Browser history, etc, attempting to use the usernames and Email addresses always resulted in rejection
https://i.postimg.cc/rydPvrDP/Userna...ng-account.jpg



The next screenshot shows that the length of an accepted Email address is limited. A valid gmail Email address was pasted in , but the field only took a limited number of characters, which did not include those containing the email provider, and hence an invalid Email address was indicated
https://i.postimg.cc/Fz35mdH3/Does-n...EMail-name.jpg


The next screenshot is an example of the software not recognising some Email providers: I have tried many different names, that is to say, many different valid Email addresses using the provider t-online.de ( German Telekom ) , but they are never accepted as valid Email addresses.
https://i.postimg.cc/y8wm3D1k/Does-n...-online-de.jpg

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Post #22 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...5911#post15911

Some further discussions on account usernames and passwords, and preparation for Sannce P2P account Registration
(4th username / password pair ( and 2nd username / password pair ) )

The 4 basic password/ username pairs were introduced here: https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ware#post16050
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post16050

This post attempts to both
_ clarify the situation related to the password/ username pairs which I numbered/ refer to as 2nd and 4th.
_ to advise of preparations for encountering 4th for the first time, ( the Sannce P2P account Registering process ), since typically it can be full of problems and bugs.

The 4th and final encountered password/ username pairs can sometimes be confused with the second, and they are related.
As far as I can tell the 4th password/ username pair relates to an account to gain access to some remote cloud type storage either at, or organised, by Sannce. With this account you can arrange that details of a DVR are held at this storage. Those details make it possible to make a P2P remote connection.
There is , in the first instance**, no limit to the number of such a Sannce P2P account that you can have. There is also no requirement to have made any payment or purchase.
You could probably compare some aspects of the Registering process of such an account with the registering of a gmail Email account. In fact you will need an Email account during to the Registering process. The Registering process can be very tricky, - not all usernames and passwords and Email accounts may work. A gmail account has a good chance to work.
There are other bugs and problems. The biggest problem, in short, is: If for any reason your registration fails , which it often does, then you will most likely not be able to use the username and Email address that you tried to Register with ever again in a Sannce P2P Registration.

Clarification of the situation related to the password/ username pairs which I numbered 2 and 4. ( and 1 )
I named the “2nd password and username” pair the 2nd … _ pair because you encounter it typically very early on, just after you encounter the very first, most fundamental password and username pair . ( The first most fundamental pair is that which you need in order to
_ do anything in the settings of your DVR in a direct way via a mouse and monitor
, and you also you
_ need it for the simplest way ( local LAN access ) to access the DVR with a computer ,- what you might call a local or semi-remote way )
The second password and username you encounter early on, even if you follow any simple “quick start” or “Quick Operation Guide”, is not typically referred to as a password and username. It could be consider as the password and username required for accessing the DVR in a truly remote way. This truly remote way could be considered as meaning
_ remote access in some way across the world wide web internet – your DVR and computer are separated by a large physical distance and there is no simple direct connection either by a cable or a local wireless system or Local Wireless Area Network
Just for comparison , a local or semi-remote way could be considered as meaning
_ access via a computer “locally” – LAN type access – when your computer and DVR are connected to the same router or modem or server or are in some other way connected to the same Local Area Network

Just a quick clarify on that last stuff:

_1st username password pair_________________ 2nd username password pair
__ Monitor __________Computer________________________________Computer
__ DVR---Monitor______DVR-modem/router-Computer___________________ DVR-modem---Internet(P2P)-----modem-Computer
__HDMI or VGA _________local__________________________________remote
Cable connection____LAN (Ethernet cable) __________( computer can be physically a large distance away from DVR )
_______________________WLAN______________________________ world wide web Internet

The final 4th username and password is required for a particular way ( P2P via Sannce ) of the truly remote way and so the 2nd username and/or password may be required at times when the final 4th username and password is required. This is one reason why these two are sometimes confused with each other. The 2nd is concerned with the decision to allow such use. The 4th is concerned with the authority of holding of the technical information needed to make it possible. This is possibly a strange idea and concept. Hence another reason easy to get confused.
Another reason for the confusion is that at the time that you ( often unconsciously ) set the password of the 2nd username and password pair, there may be a reference to Sannce or Sannce Home. For example this is a screen shot from approximately the 5th – 9th screen view that you see during the initial quick set up on first use of your DVR connectred to a Monitor.
( Which screenshot it is may vary slightly on what options you take or what exact DVR model you have ) .
( This is also a screenshot that you can get at later via settings using a mouse and the monitor )
https://i.postimg.cc/jq39qtVF/Enable...remote-use.jpg
You will see in that screen got the word Sannce Home, whereas I would suggest a more appropriate thing to use would be something like “Remote Access Password”
Typically when following a “quick start” or “Quick Operation Guide” , you would check the Enable box , and then chose a Verification Code. I chose arbitrarily Sannce2 , abd that becomes what I refer to as the password in the 2nd username and password pair. I would suggest a more appropriate thing to use rather than Verification Code would be something like “Password” followed by some note saying that the corresponding username is the part number of your DVR.
Usually when you fill in the details when following a “quick start” or “Quick Operation Guide” it is not obvious what is going on there: This is what you are actually doing:
_Checking Enable allows the DVR to be used remotely , ( that is to say via a computer rather than just with a monitor directly connected to the DVR with a HDMI or VGA cable )
_ when you set up the P2P remote usage, in Guarding Vision software, you will be asked to fill in two entries in a typical log in type pop up. https://i.postimg.cc/V6tQTWFm/Fill-i...ation-Code.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/4Nktr4Xg/Second...sword-pair.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Jhvc0NCy/Add-To-List-P2-P.jpg
The first entry may be referred to as the username or serial number or device name , and the second entry may be referred to as the Verification Code or password. My DVR has on the underside on a label something written like SN: F53992124
So in all my discussions I have 2nd username and password pair of
F53992124
Sannce2


Advise of preparations for encountering 4th username/ password pair for the first time, ( the Sannce P2P account Registering process )
_.... see next post