Testing. Rough Notes Excel and Sannce 1080N and Computer CMS Software Sannce1 Okt2020 LinkFix

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Details underneath:
SANNCE Model:DN81F
System:PAL
Power:DC 12V – 2A
SN:PO-170905-000030
www.sanncegroup.com
MADE IN CHINA

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Testing Excel and Sannce 1080N and Computer CMS Software Sannce1 Okt2020 LinkFix

Testing ( https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...kt2020-LinkFix )




1 Juni 2019 01.06.2019 1st July 2019
Notes to be edited later
Notizen, die später bearbeitet werden sollen

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Friday 31 may 2019
Hi ( Firstly, let me say.. - I am English, so my German is not to good )
Computer is Acer Aspire 4810TZG lap top connected to a Television via extended monitor option… ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...ll=1#post11167 ) . So I am using two monitors - http://i.imgur.com/WZc3LQJ.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/QMln86E.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/sCMCmQX.jpg ,
http://i.imgur.com/Ou60oYL.jpg
Hallo (Erstens, lassen Sie mich sagen .. - Ich bin Engländer, damit mein Deutsch nicht zu gut ist)
Der Computer ist ein Acer Aspire 4810TZG-Laptop, der über eine erweiterte Monitoroption mit einem Fernseher verbunden ist
( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...ll=1#post11167 ) . Also benutze ich zwei Monitore - http://i.imgur.com/WZc3LQJ.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/QMln86E.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/sCMCmQX.jpg ,
http://i.imgur.com/Ou60oYL.jpg


This is the story so far.
I wanted to connect via internet to my computer
The cameras and Receiver are all working fine. They have been working fine for many days
I tried to follow this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6APBN6fqUKA
But I got these errors
http://i.imgur.com/gFIEPFl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OJGMwOc.jpg

So I tried to follow this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iD8YUYhZ4E
I got no where with that.

I experimented and after many hours suddenly somehow something worked. But I have no idea how. I got this:
http://i.imgur.com/YxEUoVU.jpg
But then I restarted my computer and I only get this now:
http://i.imgur.com/9nMYDsi.jpg
!!!!! – see solution for Blank Monitor Screen in next post, Post #2 http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...ull=1#post8797
!!!!! - Siehe Lösung für Leerer Bildschirm angezeigt im nächsten Beitrag , Post #2 http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...ull=1#post8797

Das ist die Geschichte bis jetzt.
Ich wollte über das Internet eine Verbindung zu meinem Computer herstellen
Die Kameras und der Receiver funktionieren alle einwandfrei. Sie haben seit vielen Tagen gut funktioniert. Sie arbeiten immer noch
Ich habe versucht, dies zu befolgen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6APBN6fqUKA
Aber ich habe diese Fehler bekommen
http://i.imgur.com/gFIEPFl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OJGMwOc.jpg

Also habe ich versucht, dies zu befolgen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iD8YUYhZ4E
Das war nichts.

Ich experimentierte und nach vielen Stunden funktionierte plötzlich irgendwie etwas. Aber ich habe keine Ahnung wie. Ich hatte folgendes:
http://i.imgur.com/YxEUoVU.jpg
Aber dann habe ich meinen Computer neu gestartet und das bekomme ich erst jetzt:
http://i.imgur.com/9nMYDsi.jpg

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Saturday, 1 June, 2019
I had another go with a
Acer Aspire 6530G lap Top ( Operating System Windows 7 )
and a
Acer Aspire X3200 Computer ( Operating System Vista )

The following steps seem to consistently be successful currently. But they come from trial and error. I can find no detailed or simple to follow instructions. So I am making and sharing my own
The CMS Software disc is small!!
One immediate problem is that a small disc is supplied. It is about 8cm Diameter in size. Most nowadays seem to be about 12cm. If your lucky , your computer might be able to read that. Some of mine could. Some of mine could not.
So I tried to make a copy on a 12cm standard available ( 4.7GB) DVD.
Firstly, I put the supplied 8cm DVR-AN in a computer that was able to read it. I copied it in its entirety to a Folder on the desktop. I assumed it was a simple file, and therefore able to be copied in the simplest way. I am assuming it is not some special sort of instillation disc, but I am not sure…
I removed the 8cm DVR-AN, and in the same disc drive put a new 12cm standard available ( 4.7GB) DVD.
It seems that nobody is quite sure anymore how and what copying/ Burning to a disc is all about.. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtop...=25735#p200052 ) , and it varies with system and computer, but I double clicked on the DVD disc as showing in the Window explorer , and after a few steps appeared to have some sort of copy of the disc. I expect this will be different every time you try to do it. It is one of those annoying inconstant things designed to keep a lot of computer professionals in a job and off the streets.
1 DoubleClick on Virgin DVD 4_7GB and ____.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/uGMySRS.jpg
2 Some sort of initialising Burning.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/97EIoyJ.jpg
3 Did not work.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/g5ysg6a.jpg
On my computer, I have sometimes had better success with any sort of copying to a DVD, when using the “Sending on” option, rather than a simple Save or Copy/Paste option…
3 RightClick SendOn Disdrive.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/G66IQcl.jpg
4 Burn Maybe.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/XHNFCPH.jpg
5 Burn Maybe.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/aZKVRgw.jpg
6 Burn Maybe Discdrive making noise.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/Q5ACWpr.jpg
7 Burn Maybe Discdrive making noise Almost finished.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/mNMP5no.jpg
At the end of the copying/burning process, the DVD was thrown out. I pushed it back in, ( 8 Put it back in.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/pzpqKAM.jpg ) , to take a look at it. It appears to have similar information and format to the original 8cm DVR-AN
10 what is in it.JPGs : http://i.imgur.com/PEgz1v3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hzLCYrY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gMJnV1I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6jDikt4.jpg
An important content is the .exe file, which is what would typically be run ( usually by double clicking on, or opening somehow ) , to start an instillation process
14 what is in it exe.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/tRNCUrX.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/WGeDiAx.jpg
CMS Software instillation on a computer.
( Using either the supplied small disc, or the DVD copy which I made )
For example, I placed the made DVD in a computer that would not accept the small supplied disc.
15 Put that in another computer.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/XW0FEH5.jpg
16 Put that in another computer and open.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/H2dCIbX.jpg
17 looks like CMS copy is there.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/XiHqtdz.jpg
Important is to find the .exe file and to double click on it
18 Looks like all incl exe is there.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/uONucbb.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/XiHqtdz.jpg
Usually then a typical Instillation process will take place. Windows come up, which you should read. Usually you will simply need to click OK or Continue or similar, and after the Instillation is complete, a typical feature will be a short cut Icon in your desktop, which is used to double click on to start the program running.
Install.JPGs : http://i.imgur.com/zHVXbWh.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/v0oH14R.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/otZ5og0.jpg
, http://i.imgur.com/9JFq2Dh.jpg ,
25 Install Finish.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/9JFq2Dh.jpg
26 Icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/4TrwmWC.jpg

Samstag, 1. Juni 2019
Ich hatte einen anderen Versuch mit einem
Acer Aspire 6530G Laptop (Betriebssystem Windows 7)
und ein
Acer Aspire X3200 Computer (Betriebssystem Vista)

Die folgenden Schritte scheinen derzeit durchgehend erfolgreich zu sein. Aber sie kommen aus „Versuch und Irrtum“/ Experimentieren. Ich kann keine detaillierten oder einfach zu befolgenden Anweisungen finden. Also mache und teile ich meine eigenen Notizen
Die CMS-Software-CD ist klein !!
Ein unmittelbares Problem ist, dass eine kleine CD mitgeliefert wird. Es ist ca. 8cm Durchmesser groß. Die meisten scheinen ungefähr 12cm zu sein. Wenn Sie Glück haben, kann Ihr Computer kleinerer CDs möglicherweise lesen. Einige von meinen könnten. Einige von mieinen konnten nicht.
Also habe ich versucht, eine Kopie auf eine 12-cm-Standard-DVD (4,7 GB) zu erstellen.
Zuerst habe ich den mitgelieferten 8-cm-DVR-AN in einen Computer gesteckt, der ihn lesen konnte. Ich habe es vollständig in einen Ordner auf dem Desktop kopiert. Ich ging davon aus, dass es sich um eine einfache Datei handelt, die auf einfachste Weise kopiert werden kann. Ich gehe davon aus, dass es sich nicht um eine spezielle Art von Instillationsscheibe handelt, aber ich bin mir nicht sicher ...
Ich habe den 8-cm-DVR-AN entfernt und in das gleiche Laufwerk eine neue 12-cm-Standard-DVD (4,7 GB) eingelegt.
Es scheint, dass niemand mehr genau weiß, wie und worum es beim Kopieren / Brennen auf eine Disc geht, (Http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtop...=25735#p200052), und dies hängt vom System und vom Computer ab , aber ich habe die DVD doppelt angeklickt, als sie im Fenster-Explorer angezeigt wurde, und nach ein paar Schritten schien es eine Art Kopie der DVD zu geben. Ich gehe davon aus, dass dies bei jedem Versuch anders sein wird. Es ist eine dieser nervigen, unbeständigen Dinge, die als beschäftigungstherapie für Computerfachleute scheint zu sein.
1 DoubleClick on Virgin DVD 4_7GB and ____.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/uGMySRS.jpg
2 Some sort of initialising Burning.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/97EIoyJ.jpg
3 Did not work.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/g5ysg6a.jpg
Auf meinem Computer hatte ich manchmal bessere Erfolge beim Kopieren auf eine DVD, wenn ich die Option „Senden an“ anstelle einer einfachen Option „Speichern“ oder „Kopieren / Einfügen“ verwendete.…
3 RightClick SendOn Disdrive.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/G66IQcl.jpg
4 Burn Maybe.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/XHNFCPH.jpg
5 Burn Maybe.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/aZKVRgw.jpg
6 Burn Maybe Discdrive making noise.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/Q5ACWpr.jpg
7 Burn Maybe Discdrive making noise Almost finished.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/mNMP5no.jpg
Am Ende des Kopier- / Brennvorgangs wurde die DVD ausgeworfen. Ich habe es zurückgeschoben, ( 8 Put it back in.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/pzpqKAM.jpg ) , um es anzusehen. Es scheint ähnliche Informationen und Formate wie der ursprüngliche 8-cm-DVR-AN zu haben
10 what is in it.JPGs : http://i.imgur.com/PEgz1v3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hzLCYrY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gMJnV1I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6jDikt4.jpg
Ein wichtiger Inhalt ist die ,exe -Datei, die normalerweise ausgeführt wird (normalerweise durch Doppelklicken oder Öffnen), um einen Instillationsprozess zu starten
14 what is in it exe.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/tRNCUrX.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/WGeDiAx.jpg
Installation der CMS-Software auf einem Computer .
(Verwenden Sie entweder die mitgelieferte kleine Disc oder die von mir erstellte DVD-Kopie.)
Zum Beispiel habe ich die erstellte DVD in einen Computer eingelegt, der die mitgelieferte kleine Disc nicht akzeptiert..
15 Put that in another computer.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/XW0FEH5.jpg
16 Put that in another computer and open.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/H2dCIbX.jpg
17 looks like CMS copy is there.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/XiHqtdz.jpg
Wichtig ist, die .exe-Datei zu finden und darauf zu doppelklicken
18 Looks like all incl exe is there.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/uONucbb.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/XiHqtdz.jpg
In der Regel findet dann ein typischer Instillationsprozess statt. Es erscheint Windows, das Sie lesen sollten. Normalerweise müssen Sie nur auf OK oder Weiter oder Ähnliches klicken. Nach Abschluss der Instillation ist eine typische Funktion ein Verknüpfungssymbol auf Ihrem Desktop, mit dem Sie das Programm durch Doppelklicken starten können..
Install.JPGs : http://i.imgur.com/zHVXbWh.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/v0oH14R.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/otZ5og0.jpg
, http://i.imgur.com/9JFq2Dh.jpg ,
25 Install Finish.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/9JFq2Dh.jpg
26 Icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/4TrwmWC.jpg

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ref
https://vod.ebay.de/vod/FetchOrderDe...=2061615296011
https://www.ebay.de/itm/323782698418...r=512776720689
https://www.ebay.de/itm/323782698418

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Testing Further ( https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15059 )


Saturday 1 Juni, 2019 Samstag June 1 2019
Notes to be edited later
Notizen, die später bearbeitet werden sollen

Successful Attempts at usage of CMS Software and Problem solving
Erfolgreiche Versuche zur Nutzung von CMS-Software und zur Problemlösung.

„Zone IP Device Way“

Successful Attempts at usage of CMS Software
”Zone IP Device way”
This came from experimenting. Initially it seems to work fairly consistently. But I will likely report back as time goes on.
The Sannce 1080N Receiver and the computers are connected via LAN RJ45 socket to the same Router ( Deutsche Telekom Speedport W504V )
Erfolgreiche Versuche zur Nutzung von CMS-Software
„Zone IP Device Way“
Diese kam vom Experimentieren. Anfangs scheint es ziemlich konsequent zu funktionieren. Aber ich werde wahrscheinlich im Laufe der Zeit darüber berichten.
Der Sannce 1080N-Empfänger und die 3 Computer sind über eine RJ45- LAN-Buchse mit demselben Router (Deutsche Telekom Speedport W504V) verbunden.
Here is a typical set of steps…
Hier ist eine typische Reihe von Schritten ...
26 Double Click on Icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/WNZdHCw.jpg
27 English.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/lJq8O6A.jpg
28 Login.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/LCr0lOc.jpg
(29 Dont block.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/mLJY4nU.jpg )
30 Device is empty.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/k8hA9h3.jpg
31 System.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/KcOqiSX.jpg
32 Device Manager.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/VaxCnR7.jpg
33 Add Area.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/TmCPYep.jpg
34 Add Zone.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/XErtmAc.jpg
35 Select added Zone.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/X92Y3OH.jpg
36 Add Device.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/RSqXiHh.jpg
37 Write in Device Name.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/ajdVnpn.jpg
38 IP Search.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/wloA83L.jpg
39 Select to add IP or add manually.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/0JiUrrV.jpg
40 OK.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/sHyP1eR.jpg
41 OK.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/TzIUZfj.jpg
42 right click on IP Connect All.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/o6ioQjV.jpg
43 Adjust to suit.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/RmoapBm.jpg
44 All is well at Baustelle Schleizerstrasse 111 95028 Hof(Saale).JPG : http://i.imgur.com/B6cMORv.jpg
The computer screen looks similar to the TV Monitor to which the Sannce 1080N Receiver is connected:
Der Computerbildschirm ähnelt dem Fernsehbildschirm, an den der Sannce 1080N Receiver angeschlossen ist:
44 Auf der Baustelle Elston ist alles gut.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/tJCDo8i.jpg
Attachment 2250

Problems:
P1 ___ Sometimes the ”Zone IP Device way” stopped working
P1 ___ Manchmal funktionierte der „Zone IP Device Way“ nicht mehr:
Connection Failed.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/K8wbAMp.jpg
One solution seems to be to somehow check the IP and edit it if it appears to have change:
Eine Lösung scheint darin zu bestehen, die IP-Adresse irgendwie zu überprüfen und zu bearbeiten, wenn sie sich zu ändern scheint:
1System 2DeviceManager 3SelectZone 4Add 5IPSearch 6CopyIPAddress.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/HbGlUVl.jpg
So far I have needed, Bisher habe ich gebraucht
192.168.2.102
or , oder
192.168.2.100
I do not know what that number is??? It is not the IP address of my computer. My IP address seems to be 91.7.212.174
Ich weiß nicht, was diese Nummer ist ??? Es ist nicht die IP-Adresse meines Computers. Meine IP-Adresse scheint 91.7.212.174 zu sein
91_7_212_174.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/GEx4ZFq.jpg
P2 ___ Blank Monitor Screen !!!!!
P2 ___ Leerer Bildschirm angezeigt !!!!!
I once got a Blank monitor screen, even though everything else seemed OK, and I had the ”Zone IP Device way” working on 2 other computers. Ich habe einmal einen leeren Bildschirm bekommen, obwohl alles andere in Ordnung schien, und ich hatte die [I] „Zone IP Device way“ [/ I] auf 2 anderen Computern funktioniern
Blanck Monitor.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/fy3htlt.jpg
I de installed CMS and then re installed it. Ich de installiere CMS und installiere es dann neu
( Note, strangely, I could not find it in the more usual way to de install it ( DeInstall CMS via Control Panel.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/k9BGBBp.jpg , but also strangely I had a de instal Icon on the Desktop : CMS Deinstaler Icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/J03lGtz.jpg Merkwürdigerweise konnte ich es nicht auf die übliche Weise finden, es zu deinstallieren ( DeInstall CMS via Control Panel.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/k9BGBBp.jpg , aber auch seltsamerweise hatte ich eine de installierte Icon am Desktop: CMS Deinstaler Icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/J03lGtz.jpg )
After re installing, and re setting up the ”Zone IP Device way” ,all was well:
Nach der Neuinstallation und erneuten Einrichtung von [I] „Zone IP Device way“ [/ I] war alles in Ordnung:
Saturday Night at Baustelle Elston.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/iEVfTHP.jpg
Attachment 2251
So the original first attempt at a CMS Software Internet connection, which had failed is now working:
Der ursprüngliche erste Versuch einer CMS-Software-Internetverbindung, der fehlgeschlagen war, funktioniert nun:
Success after re instal CMS Software Acer Aspire 4810TZG Vista At Home using House LAN RJ45.JPG :]
http://i.imgur.com/eDtJ19W.jpg
_P3 __ loose connection on LAN Cable LAN Kable Wackelkontakt
Second Attemp OK on ACER after LAN cable join waggle.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/bMnVwkp.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/P0wNuFQ.jpg

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Sunday 2 June, 2019 . Sonntag 2 Juni, 2019
The receiver has continued to work properly, and the cameras continue to display properly on all three computers
Der Receiver funktioniert weiterhin ordnungsgemäß gewesen und auf allen drei Computern werden die Kameras weiterhin ordnungsgemäß angezeigt
Success after re instal CMS Software Acer Aspire 4810TZG Vista At Home using House LAN RJ45.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/eDtJ19W.jpg
Success Acer Aspires X3200 Vista Home on Main House RJ45 LAN.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/yzX0IvU.jpg
Success Acer Aspire 6530G Windows 7 At home on main House RJ45 LAN.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/ufzgPqn.jpg

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ref:
https://help.annke.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000249501
https://help.annke.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000255301 , CMS_V3.1.0.8.T.20170417.exe : https://app.box.com/s/066i9ckbyuzutbz05hjtfzzn9629n7ww



EdiT: First Cloud attempts. Tests Friday, 7th June 2019.
Sannce1
First Cloud attempts. Tests Friday, 7th June 2019. Erste Cloud-Versuche. Tests Freitag, 7. Juni 2019.
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...ll=1#post11357
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15011

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Notes in support of these excelfox Threads and posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...ista-and-Excel
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...r-CMS-Software
https://www.ebay.de/itm/323782698418?ul_noapp=true , _ http://i.imgur.com/Xq2hih2.jpg

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First Cloud attempts.

Tests Friday, 7th June 2019.

OK I make Today two tries on one computer : Computer Acer Aspire 4810TZG Vista Operating System
_1 Try one: My computer is connected to the internet using the same router as that to which the Sannce 1080N Receiver is successfully connected . (German Telekom Speedport W504V Router LAN RJ45 Internet connection)
Delete a desktop “Deinstaller CMS” icon – , (Deinstaller CMS icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/NibisVW.jpg ) , this was there since the very first instillation of Genaral_CMS_Eng_V3.0.9.7.T.20121128.exe – BUT note:- it only appeared on this computer. It has never appeared on any other computer
Remove Deinstaller CMS icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/E4JLzr4.jpg
Remove Deinstaller CMS icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/RGyZOvu.jpg
I also removed it from the paper basket :
Empty Paper Basket.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/OgPPM3r.jpg
Remove Deinstaller CMS from Paper Basket.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/bl7CNxv.jpg
So now I try to de install the software.
System Steuerung Control Panel.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/kPKPPQB.jpg
Program De install.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/gGIiHWC.jpg
But the software does not show in the list !!!!!
No CMS shown in program list.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/zvxFgOe.jpg
Also I cannot find it anywhere else!!
All Programs.JPGs : http://i.imgur.com/P3OJktp.jpg
Programs__.JPGs : http://i.imgur.com/MVUR99U.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/fyFaT2q.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/fyFaT2q.jpg
I already de installed it yesterday , Thursday, so this makes sense
So I restart computer
Restart Computer.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/5agnwMK.jpg
Now download and try to open the CMS_V3.1.0.8.T.20170417.exe
CMS_V3.1.0.8.T.20170417 exe download Friday 07June2019.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/PLIOcFG.jpg
CMS_V3.1.0.8.T.20170417 exe Friday 07June2019 Open.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/qVC9Vza.jpg
CMS Set up English.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/H8dwvqP.jpg
CMS Set up.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/aQvUtma.jpg
CMS Set up.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/uhs9IIB.jpg
Install Short cut for all users.JPG: http://i.imgur.com/BaF8Zj7.jpg
Ready to Install.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/ih1fDdZ.jpg
Installing.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/nNnqGje.jpg
Instillation Successful.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/HhOCSa5.jpg
Select Language.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/YrvshNH.jpg
Log In.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/oi585yf.jpg
Loading.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/0FCYKqL.jpg
Device Empty.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/ed7nPYu.jpg
System Device Manager.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/GmGaIYZ.jpg
ADD AREA.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/P7xnpLN.jpg
Add Area CloudAttempt3.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/GlfPksM.jpg
Select CloudAttempt3.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/JK1AfdJ.jpg
ADD DEVICE.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/g4YQ7U0.jpg
Cloud.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/nBcjkvl.jpg
Write in Serial No of my Reciever.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/CCh7p84.jpg
( 20190604_ SerialNo.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/MaQ0zKC.jpg
20190604_ SerialNo.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/WUAvjNz.jpg The serial number is, I think, f8aa252b1e2170f2 )
OK.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/CfZq47W.jpg
Click on the area.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/VTxZmRP.jpg
Right Click Connect all video(Main Stream).JPG : http://i.imgur.com/8wPUaFV.jpg
Try 1 is Success.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/N96wFU9.jpg
Try 1 Details shown.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/CUbVZpy.jpg

So Try 1 is a success today!!!
I close CMS

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_2 Try 2
I disconnect the LAN RJ45 Internet connection.
I put in the German Telekom / Congstar USB Internet “Dongle” , and connect to internet
Connect to internett with USB Dongle.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/BL5YwFT.jpg
Successful Connect to internett with USB Dongle.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/6RdLX8I.jpg

So now re open CMS
Double click CMS Icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/fwCnQb6.jpg
Login again.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/otKoR0V.jpg
Loading again.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/4iwfLq2.jpg
Double Click on Test.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/R3VbWGf.jpg
Right Click Connect all video(Extra Stream).JPG: http://i.imgur.com/x9Foa1C.jpg
Success with USB Dongle.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/x9Foa1C.jpg

Try 2 is also a success.
On Try 2, I am using a USB Dongle to connect my computer to the internet. The LAN RJ45 Internet connection to which the Sannce 1080N receiver is connected is not at this time connected to the computer. So I have no direct contact to the computer and the Receiver. So this suggests that I am remotely accessing my cameras through the internet.
I will do some further tests when I am away from home using, for example, using remote WLAN connections to the internet.



ref:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...ista-and-Excel
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...r-CMS-Software
https://help.annke.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000255301
https://help.annke.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000249501

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ref:
https://help.annke.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000249501
https://help.annke.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000255301 , CMS_V3.1.0.8.T.20170417.exe : https://app.box.com/s/066i9ckbyuzutbz05hjtfzzn9629n7ww

[DocAElstein]

Sannce1 stopped working around Summer 2020

[TallPaulUK]

Details underneath
SANNCE Model: DN81BL
System PO2
Power DC12V
SN: E47044632
PO: PO-200427-000011
www.sannce.com

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Okt 2020
I bought another one, 8 cameras (and a 4Tb hard drive that never came initially ). Sannce2kaufMitversicherung.JPG : https://imgur.com/kR36rGd http://i.imgur.com/kR36rGd.jpg
For the sake of clarity, the previous one will be referred to as Sannce1, and the new / second one as Sannce2. If it is unclear what one I am referring to then it is most likely the first, since initially I had no plan of buying a second so had no distinguishing name for it. From now on I stick a label on either with the corresponding Sannce1 or Sannce2 written on it.

This time the disc supplied was a normal size. it had a number on it: 3000314206
There is on it
Manual : Two electronic manuals, very similar, which are both similar to the paper one which came with the delivery , and a quick operation guide similar to the paper one which came with the delivery.
Player
Search Tool
Mobile App
Desktop App for mac
Desktop App for Windows
The stuff seems to be from Sept 2019 – 2020, so at least a few months after I did anything with Sannce1
I can’t find any CMS stuff on it. Looks like all new software. The manuals have some similar looking sections, but are basically different for Sannc1 and Sannc2


Power up
It powers up differently to the last one, ( Sannce1)
First you see an Activate Device screen, most white, blue ribbon along the top,

Activate Device

Username -- left at admin
Password -- tried to leave it empty, but it wouldn’t allow it, so gave it Sannce.!* using mouse on a Handy type keyboard which appeared after clicking with mouse in entry bar
___ ___ ___
Confirm Password ____ Sannce.!* using mouse on a Handy type keyboard which appeared after clicking with mouse in entry bar
Camera Activation Password -- I left checked at Use Device Password as default
Email to Reset Password -- left checked at Enable and
_______________________ gave doc.aelstein@t-online.de using mouse on a Handy type keyboard which appeared after clicking with mouse in entry bar

Then hit bottom right Activate

On the next screen I right clicked to skip setting an unlock pattern

Next screen was time settings

Next screen was Network
These were the initial settings
DHCP – checked
IPv4 Address – 192.168.2.104
IPv4 Subnet Mask – 255.255.255.0
IPv4 Default Gateway – 192.168.2.1
Obtain DNS Automatically -- checked
Preferred DNS Server -- 192.168.2.1
Alternate DNS Server – was blank
(I left checked DHCP and Obtain DNS Automatically, because the manual suggested it )
( Out of interest, I took the LAN cable out of the receiver and put it into my Vista4810TZG, got internet to work on it, and then did an ipconfig /all in the command window. Here are some of the results
Ethernet-Adapter LAN-Verbindung:

Verbindungsspezifisches DNS-Suffix: Speedport_W_504V_Typ_A
Beschreibung. . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR8131 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Con
troller
Physikalische Adresse . . . . . . : 00-1F-16-B3-24-A2
DHCP aktiviert. . . . . . . . . . : Ja
Autokonfiguration aktiviert . . . : Ja
Verbindungslokale IPv6-Adresse . : fe80::b547:b49a:a40e:818a%10(Bevorzugt)
IPv4-Adresse . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.108(Bevorzugt)
Subnetzmaske . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease erhalten. . . . . . . . . . : Montag, 12. Oktober 2020 12:39:56
Lease läuft ab. . . . . . . . . . : Dienstag, 3. November 2020 11:53:54
Standardgateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP-Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCPv6-IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 251666198
DHCPv6-Client-DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-29-E0-3A-00-1F-16-B3-24-A2

DNS-Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
NetBIOS über TCP/IP . . . . . . . : Aktiviert
)

The next screen was the handy square things, so I ignored it and went straight to next.

I did not understand the next two screens so I just hit Next and Finish, and the camera(s) came up on the screen working

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The connector to connect to the hard drive was missing. Cutting a long painful story short, it took about 3 months for Sannce to finally find a correct cable. It eventually came from England after two attempts to supply via their usual after sale support failed.
This older one has the larger connector:
Old Receiver: http://i.imgur.com/V2KMVbs.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3AFHbdF.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1LJj1fq.jpg

Here is the new Receiver with smaller connector
New Receiver: http://i.imgur.com/TFRI3fm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/usT44OS.jpg

There appears to be no real intelligence behind their support.
Sannce Support appears to have no understanding of any requests made
It appears that the support tries to pick out key words in a request, and based on those words pre prepared answers are issued.
This makes the support insanely inefficient and close to useless.
It appears that there are no people at support who either can communicate in English or understand anything about the Sannce DVR product.
A small problem that could be solved in a few minutes by a competent support will require by Sannce Support a time between many days to infinite time because of the issues that I have stated.

[DocAElstein]

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[DocAElstein]

Getting started on a pc with Sannce2 ( it has Guarding Vision Software )

The Guarding Vision manual is massive, difficult to read and totally useless for getting started on a pc. It appears that everyone scans a the square of black squares QR code, and then everything else falls into space with a few wipes of the thumb. I expect the manual is only good for later reference to the massive amount of feature that appear to be available.
What comes with such a receiver in terms of manuals, instructions, hard copy of software a, quick start guides, etc., seems to be a bit poorly organised. You will likely get the software and instructions relevant for your model, but whether they are up to date, or any use at all, is a bit hit and miss.
It is likely that your best bet is to briefly look through all that is supplied then try to find some on line info, such as the following.
Following this:
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision-
Working software at time of writing:
Share ‘Guarding-Vision.exe’ : https://app.box.com/s/fi3eumo8m6sq8tztlxgheftuxqtq5f5b
( Later I got the impression , that contacting support for my receiver model usually results in some blind reference to this article. The article is incomplete, but is probably your best bet. )
The thing to do with a new receiver is to look on the internet, possibly at Sannce support articles , get the latest software downloaded and take it from there

Download / Install Guarding Vision

The download and install was very typical

Note: Get the internet working or don’t bother to go further
Sannce receivers are very unreliable. ( !!!! Their support is close to useless. Some of their downloads are corrupt and have viruses in them )
The receivers usually will work reliably after power up to display the cameras on a television or monitor screen , but their internet function can stop working.
Throughout the following process I had a working Rj45 LAN Ethernet-Network cable connected , and on the DVR the furthest right green light flickers indicating a successful internet source.
If you have a working connection to a monitor, then on power up their will likely be some indication of a successful connection to the internet.
If you can’t get this apparent stable internet connection, don’t bother to go further.

Download software
The download and install was very typical
InstallWizard2.JPG http://i.imgur.com/X3RdzQm.jpg
InstallWizard3.JPG http://i.imgur.com/auEGcoe.jpg
InstallWizard4.JPG http://i.imgur.com/qRS0pwQ.jpg
InstallWizard5 Installing.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/30gYaan.jpg
InstallWizard6 Installing.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/1QRjWA2.jpg
InstallWizard7 Installing.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/tnQPTTb.jpg
InstallWizard8 Install Finish.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/BCaYc9a.jpg
Double click the icon and away you go
Installed Icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/NvZCwDi.jpg
Dont Block Anymore.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/kHXO4yL.jpg

By first use of software, you set a password, this is the password by first use of Guarding Vision
RegisterAdministrator.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/KpebVJF.jpg
( This is not the first power up password typed into screen using mouse, but you will need that later …………..
Username -- left at admin
Password -- tried to leave it empty, but it wouldn’t allow it, so gave it Sannce.!* using mouse on a Handy type keyboard which appeared after clicking with mouse in entry bar )
Installed software:
Super User DocAElstein
Password Gaudy.!*
RegisterAdministrator2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/WQUNqyB.jpg

At 52% Initialising it hanged for a while, then jumped to 83 % and had the block window for the second time
Dont Block Anymore2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/6FOG87Z.jpg
After finish got an extra window not detailed in the instruction at https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision- This seemed to be suggesting I look a t Help
Extra Help Indicator.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/pc2hnzg.jpg

Throughout the above process I had a working Rj45 LAN Ethernet-Network cable, and on the DVR the furthest right green light flickers indicating a successful internet source.
As a result of this, on selecting Device Manager, the Guarding Vision software in the lower window seems to recognise the router and catches the following details about it as well as the Guarding Vision associated info:
DeviceManager.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/RESQeMZ.jpg
DeviceManager2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/8qLPfds.jpg
IP: 192.168.2.106
Device Type: DN81BL
Firmware Version: V4.30.100build 191122
Security: Active
Server Port: 8000
Device Serial No.: DN81BL0820200601CCWRE47044632WCVU
DN81 BL08 2020 0601 CCWR E470 4463 2WCV U
Start Time: 2021-01-10 21:21:01
Added: No
Support Guarding Vision : Yes
Guarding Vision Status: Disabled
OnlineDevice.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/imFm8fP.jpg
OnlineDevice2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/VCeY8Me.jpg
OnlineDevice3.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/5xxZD77.jpg

OnlineDevice.JPGOnlineDevice2.JPG

[DocAElstein]

The basic viewing of cameras on a pc, LAN access.

There may be ways to get the lap top up and running away from home initially. However the possible problems are so immense, and quality and , in particular competence , of Sannce support so extremely low, that one should best start with every pc to which its wanted to be used away from home , initially having at home on the same router as the DVR, with a working internet. If this situation is achieved at home , then the lower half of the Guarding Vision Software should be showing an “Online Davice (1)” in the main

Device Management

window

Major failing in Sannce support understanding
This post is approximately following Step 2a: LAN Access https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision-
After over a month of trying to communicate with Sannce support, I have come to the conclusion that
_ they do not know the difference between a pc and a mobile phone
and
_ they barely understand any English
and
_ have no technical understanding of the DVR product or its use
and
_ both they, and most of their articles, assume that you already have a full working remote set up on your mobile phone
and
_ most likely the Sannce support is done by call centre that try to make use standard replies.
The problems with article first occur at the attempt at true remote “P2P” access, Step 2b: P2P Access
That will be done in the next post
This post is approximately the successful following of Step 2a: LAN Access https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision-

Adding a found Online device to the guarding vision Client Software

.
We remain in the lower OnLine Device(1) window. ( Note the (1) is indicating our found router )
From this bottom window we Add to Client
AddToClient.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/2Izod9M.jpg
( Note for later comparison: At this point you arte usually by default showing Device ( which causes, amongst other things, the + Add to Client
NoteOnDeviceusuallyByDefault.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/Id083Rj.jpg )
I had to fill in details:
add nickname,
username as admin , and
the password ( which must be the one I added on first DVR power up, Sannce.!* ) and
check Export to Group**, ( **it was by default already checked )
Fill in details then Add.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/ZyNdATX.jpg
Although I am certain I used the correct password,
PasswordUsedToLogIntoSystemOnATV Monitor.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/KX9uSXn.jpg
It did not accept the password or username http://i.imgur.com/oyUrt0r.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0XfzGiv.jpg

DVR ( First Monitor switch on ) Password Reset
The entire passwords area is full of bugs and problems. As always, Sannce support are close to useless.
After a month I finally got the problem solved. Here are notes of the various attempts and contact with Sannce support and the useless automatic method for password reset indicated on the DVR Monitor
Share ‘Sannce2PasswordResetCatastrohy.doc’ : https://app.box.com/s/85khysah0rhdpdfy9wan7ne7ubj92nn2

The shortened story:
The automated Email Password recovery method indicated on the DVR Monitor does not appear to work and on one at Sannce support appears to understand anything about it: It is probably not on their list of key words used to generate a pre prepared response , so you are biting on stone trying to talk to them about it.
They have a method which relies on a instillation of a “SADP” software, but they have difficulty in supplying that software.
This latter method finally worked, but mostly I organised it myself

Finally I reset the username and password to what it already was
admin
Sannce.!*
and it was accepted.
Here is the SADP software currently working at the time of writing this:
zip
https://app.box.com/s/nc5yifux122eef8g8tj7yh0t6insyie0
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Klc...?usp=drive_web
exe
https://app.box.com/s/fzmw2m7g7xzg9ep25kpqfvlq796s3luq
https://help.annke.com/attachments/t...e=SADPTool.exe
Share ‘SADPTool.exe’ : https://app.box.com/s/0n78g9bh72ygtwu03acc6aothfeybwf0
Here are the instructions that are approximately correct:
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...ssword-of-DVR-

After sorting out the password issue, the “LAN access” is usually working, and clicking on
View and / or

Main View

Will get some explorer Folder arrangement and other various viewing options show to the left, along with actual live pictures in the main window
Go to View Then Main View.JPG : https://imgur.com/KoNcY61 : https://imgur.com/khGGZL4


Note in my last screen shots the username for Guarding Vision showing,
DocAElstein __ (Password : Gaudy.!* RegisterAdministrator2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/WQUNqyB.jpg )

( On running by clicking the Icon on my laptop, I am not normally asked for this password
GaurdingVisionComesUpAutomatically.JPG : https://imgur.com/ZrrZuhb )

[DocAElstein]

Here is the link to this post https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...kFix#post15288
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2674-Testing-Excel-and-Sannce-1080N-and-Computer-CMS-Software-Sannce1-Okt2020-LinkFix#post15288

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Sannce2 P2P Cloud way

At this point, for pc use the articles from Sannce and their support become incomplete and misleading , and communicating effectively with them is almost impossible.
Its possible that if you have an already working Mobile / Smart phone, you may be able to box through with some support from Sannce. Without this, I think it would be almost impossible.
Give up with Sannce support
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1186519
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1188027

My Notes and Experiments
The following notes which lead to a successful remote P2P Cloud way came mostly from a lot of experiments.

SannkeHome account Spaghetti mess
The following steps are very vague. No one knows them for sure, least of all anyone at Sannce. By lots of experimenting in the general areas discussed in this section, some pop ups suddenly appeared asking me to set up an account which resulted in me having following information

Annke Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P account user name and password https://imgur.com/4vBxnla http://i.imgur.com/4vBxnla.jpg
user name DocAElstein
password Sannce2CloudWay

Verification Code https://imgur.com/jXrl3g3 http://i.imgur.com/jXrl3g3.jpg https://imgur.com/YYR5QWR http://i.imgur.com/YYR5QWR.jpg
Sannce2

Register Account
Doc.AElstein
Sannce2CloudWay

doc.aelstein@t-online.de did not work,
gmail did

Betreff: Verification Code
Datum: 2021-01-21T11:54:47+0100
Von: "service063@hicloudcam.com"
An: "doc.aelstein@gmail.com"

Account registration security code:
7311,expires in 30 minutes.
Did not work
Nor did the next

Eventually I found that the problem was Doc.AElstein , so tried DocAElstein
Annke Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P account user name and password
user name DocAElstein
password Sannce2CloudWay

All the above was a hideous spaghetti of failed attempts, but finally, it resulted at some point in this large window popping up , and my account was accepted. I don’t remember where and when the pop up came. It probably would not be consistent and would not always work in exactly the same way again anyway..
http://i.imgur.com/Nqgrldl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cL4Ywo8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UDu9tR7.jpg
Enable Guarding Vision
It is possible that the “enabling” of the by default disabled guarding vision may have helped:
Guarding Vision Disabled (2).JPG : https://imgur.com/undefined
Guarding Vision Disabled.JPG : https://imgur.com/T27I9NZ
Enable Guarding Vision Status.JPG : https://imgur.com/Db3RX9q
Guarding Vision Status Enabled.JPG : https://imgur.com/2umIvf0
Its possible that the first time of accessing something like Sannce Home somewhere , ( for example via the DVR monitor settings ) , lead to me registering DocAElstein , Sannce2CloudWay and in turn this may be somewhere held as docaelstein , Sannce2CloudWay



Verification code / + Add to Account
After the spaghetti above, you are, if you are lucky logged in to a AnnkeHome account. This appears to happen somehow very easily / automatically when you attempt to do anything with a mobile phone. Without a mobile phone, I have done a wonder in getting myself logged in…

At this point , you could try selecting a couple of things in Device Management, namely
Add New Device Type --- OK : https://imgur.com/PC6sJvQ
Cloud P2P Device : http://i.imgur.com/usy3PEu.jpg
This may or may not wake something up or do something that might make the next steps work. Who knows. Certainly no one at Sannce. In any case, most likely you will be at this point, with a Cloud P2P Account, but nothing in it
NoDevicesShown.JPG: http://i.imgur.com/9MaJGGf.jpg
But note, in comparison with the Device / LAN access situation we now have a + Add to Account instead of the previous + Add to Client
Cloud P2P Device Add to Account.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/bF2TvJE.jpg

Verification Code
The next steps are close to a working method, which I have discovered and were totally unknown previously. I think nobody other than me knows them.
The next step is to hit under
__ Device Management
__ Cloud P2P Device ( at the left )
__ Click on the found Online Device (1) ribbon : Click on the found Online Device (1) ribbon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/w2FaHbB.jpg
__+ Add to Account , …_
_... but before this will take us further, we need a verification code. We have to make one. I made Sannce2
The making of a verification code is done on the DVR Monitor
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...ification-code
Verification Code Sannce2.JPG http://i.imgur.com/gFynDLG.jpg
1Configuration 2Network 3SannceHome Verification Code Sannce2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/dO26z6J.jpg

So we are back at + Add to Account
What is the verification Code.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/jVBUsJF.jpg
Assuming you are lucky , and the verification code is accepted, then you are theoretically finished.

In the Main View you should now see a second folder, and cameras can be viewed as in the LAN way
The second folder seems to have the lower case version of the mysteriously obtained annke Home / Sannce Home account ( – the one that magically appears easily when you have a mobile phone, and which no person in the universe other than me has ever obtained without a mobile phone.)
P2P possibly working on USB stick.JPG: http://i.imgur.com/SjQ95Rb.jpg

The above views, that is to say the remote viewing did not work at all for about a month. A month worth of support contact got no where at all. Suddenly it worked one day. Since then it works occasionally, about once a month

There is something very quirky going on, as sometime both LAN and P2P appear to work when it seems as though they are not working remote, and visa versa, both appear to be working on a USN dongle internet stick.
LAN working on USB stick.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/bVdGiDf.jpg
Possibly one defaults to the other somehow, or even Sannce themselves are doing something very strange remotely.

God knows. The whole exercise is a bloody frustrating mess.

Don’t ever buy any Sannce or Annke DVR