Testing. Rough Notes Excel and Sannce 1080N and Computer CMS Software Sannce1 Okt2020 LinkFix

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Details underneath
SANNCE Model: DN81BL
System PO2
Power DC12V
SN: E47044632
PO: PO-200427-000011
www.sannce.com

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Okt 2020
I bought another one, 8 cameras (and a 4Tb hard drive that never came initially ). Sannce2kaufMitversicherung.JPG : https://imgur.com/kR36rGd http://i.imgur.com/kR36rGd.jpg
For the sake of clarity, the previous one will be referred to as Sannce1, and the new / second one as Sannce2. If it is unclear what one I am referring to then it is most likely the first, since initially I had no plan of buying a second so had no distinguishing name for it. From now on I stick a label on either with the corresponding Sannce1 or Sannce2 written on it.

This time the disc supplied was a normal size. it had a number on it: 3000314206
There is on it
Manual : Two electronic manuals, very similar, which are both similar to the paper one which came with the delivery , and a quick operation guide similar to the paper one which came with the delivery.
Player
Search Tool
Mobile App
Desktop App for mac
Desktop App for Windows
The stuff seems to be from Sept 2019 – 2020, so at least a few months after I did anything with Sannce1
I can’t find any CMS stuff on it. Looks like all new software. The manuals have some similar looking sections, but are basically different for Sannc1 and Sannc2


Power up
It powers up differently to the last one, ( Sannce1)
First you see an Activate Device screen, most white, blue ribbon along the top,

Activate Device

Username -- left at admin
Password -- tried to leave it empty, but it wouldn’t allow it, so gave it Sannce.!* using mouse on a Handy type keyboard which appeared after clicking with mouse in entry bar
___ ___ ___
Confirm Password ____ Sannce.!* using mouse on a Handy type keyboard which appeared after clicking with mouse in entry bar
Camera Activation Password -- I left checked at Use Device Password as default
Email to Reset Password -- left checked at Enable and
_______________________ gave doc.aelstein@t-online.de using mouse on a Handy type keyboard which appeared after clicking with mouse in entry bar

Then hit bottom right Activate

On the next screen I right clicked to skip setting an unlock pattern

Next screen was time settings

Next screen was Network
These were the initial settings
DHCP – checked
IPv4 Address – 192.168.2.104
IPv4 Subnet Mask – 255.255.255.0
IPv4 Default Gateway – 192.168.2.1
Obtain DNS Automatically -- checked
Preferred DNS Server -- 192.168.2.1
Alternate DNS Server – was blank
(I left checked DHCP and Obtain DNS Automatically, because the manual suggested it )
( Out of interest, I took the LAN cable out of the receiver and put it into my Vista4810TZG, got internet to work on it, and then did an ipconfig /all in the command window. Here are some of the results
Ethernet-Adapter LAN-Verbindung:

Verbindungsspezifisches DNS-Suffix: Speedport_W_504V_Typ_A
Beschreibung. . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR8131 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Con
troller
Physikalische Adresse . . . . . . : 00-1F-16-B3-24-A2
DHCP aktiviert. . . . . . . . . . : Ja
Autokonfiguration aktiviert . . . : Ja
Verbindungslokale IPv6-Adresse . : fe80::b547:b49a:a40e:818a%10(Bevorzugt)
IPv4-Adresse . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.108(Bevorzugt)
Subnetzmaske . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease erhalten. . . . . . . . . . : Montag, 12. Oktober 2020 12:39:56
Lease läuft ab. . . . . . . . . . : Dienstag, 3. November 2020 11:53:54
Standardgateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP-Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCPv6-IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 251666198
DHCPv6-Client-DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-29-E0-3A-00-1F-16-B3-24-A2

DNS-Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
NetBIOS über TCP/IP . . . . . . . : Aktiviert
)

The next screen was the handy square things, so I ignored it and went straight to next.

I did not understand the next two screens so I just hit Next and Finish, and the camera(s) came up on the screen working

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The connector to connect to the hard drive was missing. Cutting a long painful story short, it took about 3 months for Sannce to finally find a correct cable. It eventually came from England after two attempts to supply via their usual after sale support failed.
This older one has the larger connector:
Old Receiver: http://i.imgur.com/V2KMVbs.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3AFHbdF.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1LJj1fq.jpg

Here is the new Receiver with smaller connector
New Receiver: http://i.imgur.com/TFRI3fm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/usT44OS.jpg

There appears to be no real intelligence behind their support.
Sannce Support appears to have no understanding of any requests made
It appears that the support tries to pick out key words in a request, and based on those words pre prepared answers are issued.
This makes the support insanely inefficient and close to useless.
It appears that there are no people at support who either can communicate in English or understand anything about the Sannce DVR product.
A small problem that could be solved in a few minutes by a competent support will require by Sannce Support a time between many days to infinite time because of the issues that I have stated.

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Getting started on a pc with Sannce2 ( it has Guarding Vision Software )

The Guarding Vision manual is massive, difficult to read and totally useless for getting started on a pc. It appears that everyone scans a the square of black squares QR code, and then everything else falls into space with a few wipes of the thumb. I expect the manual is only good for later reference to the massive amount of feature that appear to be available.
What comes with such a receiver in terms of manuals, instructions, hard copy of software a, quick start guides, etc., seems to be a bit poorly organised. You will likely get the software and instructions relevant for your model, but whether they are up to date, or any use at all, is a bit hit and miss.
It is likely that your best bet is to briefly look through all that is supplied then try to find some on line info, such as the following.
Following this:
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision-
Working software at time of writing:
Share ‘Guarding-Vision.exe’ : https://app.box.com/s/fi3eumo8m6sq8tztlxgheftuxqtq5f5b
( Later I got the impression , that contacting support for my receiver model usually results in some blind reference to this article. The article is incomplete, but is probably your best bet. )
The thing to do with a new receiver is to look on the internet, possibly at Sannce support articles , get the latest software downloaded and take it from there

Download / Install Guarding Vision

The download and install was very typical

Note: Get the internet working or don’t bother to go further
Sannce receivers are very unreliable. ( !!!! Their support is close to useless. Some of their downloads are corrupt and have viruses in them )
The receivers usually will work reliably after power up to display the cameras on a television or monitor screen , but their internet function can stop working.
Throughout the following process I had a working Rj45 LAN Ethernet-Network cable connected , and on the DVR the furthest right green light flickers indicating a successful internet source.
If you have a working connection to a monitor, then on power up their will likely be some indication of a successful connection to the internet.
If you can’t get this apparent stable internet connection, don’t bother to go further.

Download software
The download and install was very typical
InstallWizard2.JPG http://i.imgur.com/X3RdzQm.jpg
InstallWizard3.JPG http://i.imgur.com/auEGcoe.jpg
InstallWizard4.JPG http://i.imgur.com/qRS0pwQ.jpg
InstallWizard5 Installing.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/30gYaan.jpg
InstallWizard6 Installing.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/1QRjWA2.jpg
InstallWizard7 Installing.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/tnQPTTb.jpg
InstallWizard8 Install Finish.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/BCaYc9a.jpg
Double click the icon and away you go
Installed Icon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/NvZCwDi.jpg
Dont Block Anymore.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/kHXO4yL.jpg

By first use of software, you set a password, this is the password by first use of Guarding Vision
RegisterAdministrator.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/KpebVJF.jpg
( This is not the first power up password typed into screen using mouse, but you will need that later …………..
Username -- left at admin
Password -- tried to leave it empty, but it wouldn’t allow it, so gave it Sannce.!* using mouse on a Handy type keyboard which appeared after clicking with mouse in entry bar )
Installed software:
Super User DocAElstein
Password Gaudy.!*
RegisterAdministrator2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/WQUNqyB.jpg

At 52% Initialising it hanged for a while, then jumped to 83 % and had the block window for the second time
Dont Block Anymore2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/6FOG87Z.jpg
After finish got an extra window not detailed in the instruction at https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision- This seemed to be suggesting I look a t Help
Extra Help Indicator.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/pc2hnzg.jpg

Throughout the above process I had a working Rj45 LAN Ethernet-Network cable, and on the DVR the furthest right green light flickers indicating a successful internet source.
As a result of this, on selecting Device Manager, the Guarding Vision software in the lower window seems to recognise the router and catches the following details about it as well as the Guarding Vision associated info:
DeviceManager.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/RESQeMZ.jpg
DeviceManager2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/8qLPfds.jpg
IP: 192.168.2.106
Device Type: DN81BL
Firmware Version: V4.30.100build 191122
Security: Active
Server Port: 8000
Device Serial No.: DN81BL0820200601CCWRE47044632WCVU
DN81 BL08 2020 0601 CCWR E470 4463 2WCV U
Start Time: 2021-01-10 21:21:01
Added: No
Support Guarding Vision : Yes
Guarding Vision Status: Disabled
OnlineDevice.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/imFm8fP.jpg
OnlineDevice2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/VCeY8Me.jpg
OnlineDevice3.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/5xxZD77.jpg

OnlineDevice.JPGOnlineDevice2.JPG

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The basic viewing of cameras on a pc, LAN access.

There may be ways to get the lap top up and running away from home initially. However the possible problems are so immense, and quality and , in particular competence , of Sannce support so extremely low, that one should best start with every pc to which its wanted to be used away from home , initially having at home on the same router as the DVR, with a working internet. If this situation is achieved at home , then the lower half of the Guarding Vision Software should be showing an “Online Davice (1)” in the main

Device Management

window

Major failing in Sannce support understanding
This post is approximately following Step 2a: LAN Access https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision-
After over a month of trying to communicate with Sannce support, I have come to the conclusion that
_ they do not know the difference between a pc and a mobile phone
and
_ they barely understand any English
and
_ have no technical understanding of the DVR product or its use
and
_ both they, and most of their articles, assume that you already have a full working remote set up on your mobile phone
and
_ most likely the Sannce support is done by call centre that try to make use standard replies.
The problems with article first occur at the attempt at true remote “P2P” access, Step 2b: P2P Access
That will be done in the next post
This post is approximately the successful following of Step 2a: LAN Access https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision-

Adding a found Online device to the guarding vision Client Software

.
We remain in the lower OnLine Device(1) window. ( Note the (1) is indicating our found router )
From this bottom window we Add to Client
AddToClient.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/2Izod9M.jpg
( Note for later comparison: At this point you arte usually by default showing Device ( which causes, amongst other things, the + Add to Client
NoteOnDeviceusuallyByDefault.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/Id083Rj.jpg )
I had to fill in details:
add nickname,
username as admin , and
the password ( which must be the one I added on first DVR power up, Sannce.!* ) and
check Export to Group**, ( **it was by default already checked )
Fill in details then Add.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/ZyNdATX.jpg
Although I am certain I used the correct password,
PasswordUsedToLogIntoSystemOnATV Monitor.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/KX9uSXn.jpg
It did not accept the password or username http://i.imgur.com/oyUrt0r.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0XfzGiv.jpg

DVR ( First Monitor switch on ) Password Reset
The entire passwords area is full of bugs and problems. As always, Sannce support are close to useless.
After a month I finally got the problem solved. Here are notes of the various attempts and contact with Sannce support and the useless automatic method for password reset indicated on the DVR Monitor
Share ‘Sannce2PasswordResetCatastrohy.doc’ : https://app.box.com/s/85khysah0rhdpdfy9wan7ne7ubj92nn2

The shortened story:
The automated Email Password recovery method indicated on the DVR Monitor does not appear to work and on one at Sannce support appears to understand anything about it: It is probably not on their list of key words used to generate a pre prepared response , so you are biting on stone trying to talk to them about it.
They have a method which relies on a instillation of a “SADP” software, but they have difficulty in supplying that software.
This latter method finally worked, but mostly I organised it myself

Finally I reset the username and password to what it already was
admin
Sannce.!*
and it was accepted.
Here is the SADP software currently working at the time of writing this:
zip
https://app.box.com/s/nc5yifux122eef8g8tj7yh0t6insyie0
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Klc...?usp=drive_web
exe
https://app.box.com/s/fzmw2m7g7xzg9ep25kpqfvlq796s3luq
https://help.annke.com/attachments/t...e=SADPTool.exe
Share ‘SADPTool.exe’ : https://app.box.com/s/0n78g9bh72ygtwu03acc6aothfeybwf0
Here are the instructions that are approximately correct:
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...ssword-of-DVR-

After sorting out the password issue, the “LAN access” is usually working, and clicking on
View and / or

Main View

Will get some explorer Folder arrangement and other various viewing options show to the left, along with actual live pictures in the main window
Go to View Then Main View.JPG : https://imgur.com/KoNcY61 : https://imgur.com/khGGZL4


Note in my last screen shots the username for Guarding Vision showing,
DocAElstein __ (Password : Gaudy.!* RegisterAdministrator2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/WQUNqyB.jpg )

( On running by clicking the Icon on my laptop, I am not normally asked for this password
GaurdingVisionComesUpAutomatically.JPG : https://imgur.com/ZrrZuhb )

[DocAElstein]

Here is the link to this post https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...kFix#post15288
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2674-Testing-Excel-and-Sannce-1080N-and-Computer-CMS-Software-Sannce1-Okt2020-LinkFix#post15288

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Sannce2 P2P Cloud way

At this point, for pc use the articles from Sannce and their support become incomplete and misleading , and communicating effectively with them is almost impossible.
Its possible that if you have an already working Mobile / Smart phone, you may be able to box through with some support from Sannce. Without this, I think it would be almost impossible.
Give up with Sannce support
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1186519
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1188027

My Notes and Experiments
The following notes which lead to a successful remote P2P Cloud way came mostly from a lot of experiments.

SannkeHome account Spaghetti mess
The following steps are very vague. No one knows them for sure, least of all anyone at Sannce. By lots of experimenting in the general areas discussed in this section, some pop ups suddenly appeared asking me to set up an account which resulted in me having following information

Annke Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P account user name and password https://imgur.com/4vBxnla http://i.imgur.com/4vBxnla.jpg
user name DocAElstein
password Sannce2CloudWay

Verification Code https://imgur.com/jXrl3g3 http://i.imgur.com/jXrl3g3.jpg https://imgur.com/YYR5QWR http://i.imgur.com/YYR5QWR.jpg
Sannce2

Register Account
Doc.AElstein
Sannce2CloudWay

doc.aelstein@t-online.de did not work,
gmail did

Betreff: Verification Code
Datum: 2021-01-21T11:54:47+0100
Von: "service063@hicloudcam.com"
An: "doc.aelstein@gmail.com"

Account registration security code:
7311,expires in 30 minutes.
Did not work
Nor did the next

Eventually I found that the problem was Doc.AElstein , so tried DocAElstein
Annke Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P account user name and password
user name DocAElstein
password Sannce2CloudWay

All the above was a hideous spaghetti of failed attempts, but finally, it resulted at some point in this large window popping up , and my account was accepted. I don’t remember where and when the pop up came. It probably would not be consistent and would not always work in exactly the same way again anyway..
http://i.imgur.com/Nqgrldl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cL4Ywo8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UDu9tR7.jpg
Enable Guarding Vision
It is possible that the “enabling” of the by default disabled guarding vision may have helped:
Guarding Vision Disabled (2).JPG : https://imgur.com/undefined
Guarding Vision Disabled.JPG : https://imgur.com/T27I9NZ
Enable Guarding Vision Status.JPG : https://imgur.com/Db3RX9q
Guarding Vision Status Enabled.JPG : https://imgur.com/2umIvf0
Its possible that the first time of accessing something like Sannce Home somewhere , ( for example via the DVR monitor settings ) , lead to me registering DocAElstein , Sannce2CloudWay and in turn this may be somewhere held as docaelstein , Sannce2CloudWay



Verification code / + Add to Account
After the spaghetti above, you are, if you are lucky logged in to a AnnkeHome account. This appears to happen somehow very easily / automatically when you attempt to do anything with a mobile phone. Without a mobile phone, I have done a wonder in getting myself logged in…

At this point , you could try selecting a couple of things in Device Management, namely
Add New Device Type --- OK : https://imgur.com/PC6sJvQ
Cloud P2P Device : http://i.imgur.com/usy3PEu.jpg
This may or may not wake something up or do something that might make the next steps work. Who knows. Certainly no one at Sannce. In any case, most likely you will be at this point, with a Cloud P2P Account, but nothing in it
NoDevicesShown.JPG: http://i.imgur.com/9MaJGGf.jpg
But note, in comparison with the Device / LAN access situation we now have a + Add to Account instead of the previous + Add to Client
Cloud P2P Device Add to Account.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/bF2TvJE.jpg

Verification Code
The next steps are close to a working method, which I have discovered and were totally unknown previously. I think nobody other than me knows them.
The next step is to hit under
__ Device Management
__ Cloud P2P Device ( at the left )
__ Click on the found Online Device (1) ribbon : Click on the found Online Device (1) ribbon.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/w2FaHbB.jpg
__+ Add to Account , …_
_... but before this will take us further, we need a verification code. We have to make one. I made Sannce2
The making of a verification code is done on the DVR Monitor
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...ification-code
Verification Code Sannce2.JPG http://i.imgur.com/gFynDLG.jpg
1Configuration 2Network 3SannceHome Verification Code Sannce2.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/dO26z6J.jpg

So we are back at + Add to Account
What is the verification Code.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/jVBUsJF.jpg
Assuming you are lucky , and the verification code is accepted, then you are theoretically finished.

In the Main View you should now see a second folder, and cameras can be viewed as in the LAN way
The second folder seems to have the lower case version of the mysteriously obtained annke Home / Sannce Home account ( – the one that magically appears easily when you have a mobile phone, and which no person in the universe other than me has ever obtained without a mobile phone.)
P2P possibly working on USB stick.JPG: http://i.imgur.com/SjQ95Rb.jpg

The above views, that is to say the remote viewing did not work at all for about a month. A month worth of support contact got no where at all. Suddenly it worked one day. Since then it works occasionally, about once a month

There is something very quirky going on, as sometime both LAN and P2P appear to work when it seems as though they are not working remote, and visa versa, both appear to be working on a USN dongle internet stick.
LAN working on USB stick.JPG : http://i.imgur.com/bVdGiDf.jpg
Possibly one defaults to the other somehow, or even Sannce themselves are doing something very strange remotely.

God knows. The whole exercise is a bloody frustrating mess.

Don’t ever buy any Sannce or Annke DVR

[DocAElstein]

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[DocAElstein]

Is it possible to use model DN81BL with CMS software
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1188035
SANNCE Model: DN81BL I am using correct password. But it is no longer being accepted
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1164553
DVR DN81BL - How to access remotely on Laptop when not connected to the same router as DVR – How to access DVR over the internet on a Laptop when I
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1186519
Broken zip file link
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1188717
Remote access to DVR on Laptop away from home over the internet using Guarding Vision Software
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1188027
Password Recovery
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1170525


GaurdingVisionAnnkeHomePasswords.doc
https://app.box.com/s/m1oerwhuqbrswevlio2gopmhshwemuq8
42.5 KB
DVR DN81BL - How to access remotely on Laptop when not connected to the same router as DVR.doc
https://app.box.com/s/rh7isd5eug6450rs1siqosfgfww6xbqz
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Remote access to DVR on Laptop away from home over the internet using Guarding Vision Software.doc
https://app.box.com/s/ejp78id93svq13lh55n5nwgrqgclouch
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Is it possible to use model DN81BL with CMS software.doc
https://app.box.com/s/lqdg231fnoljk7yfd4rvkq8mw2pc8sox
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Password Recovery.doc
https://app.box.com/s/9uszzgjf48t1fsbn5uhbo67y58bkakr2
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Broken zip file link.doc
https://app.box.com/s/f1yegifz1b90lf680ldt62ok92q0ab5t
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DN81BL I am using correct password. But it is no longer being accepted.doc
https://app.box.com/s/k9cc1zepe3nzk8atye167rhmiudonybd
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Sannce2PasswordResetCatastrohy.doc
https://app.box.com/s/85khysah0rhdpdfy9wan7ne7ubj92nn2
116.5 KB
Guarding-Vision.exe
https://app.box.com/s/fi3eumo8m6sq8tztlxgheftuxqtq5f5b
202.2 MB
SADPTool.exe
https://app.box.com/s/0n78g9bh72ygtwu03acc6aothfeybwf0
36.3 MB

Sign in to Sannce …. Alan
EMail address doc.aelstein@t-online.de
Password Sannce.!*

SANNCE Model: DN81BL
System PO2
Power DC12V
SN: E47044632
PO: PO-200427-000011

ebay Order Info https://imgur.com/zzdc9FI http://i.imgur.com/zzdc9FI.jpg
ebay username dr.aelstein
Order number 25-05793-90534
Order date Sa, 26. Sep 2020

DVR Monitor/TV first power up. Activate Device https://imgur.com/jFJG9Zp http://i.imgur.com/jFJG9Zp.jpg
Username admin
Password Sannce.!*

Registered new account on Guarding Vision when run software for first time https://imgur.com/vekgQEH http://i.imgur.com/vekgQEH.jpg
Super User DocAElstein
Password Gaudy.!*
https://imgur.com/9b4qd47 http://i.imgur.com/9b4qd47.jpg
Annke Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P account user name and password https://imgur.com/4vBxnla http://i.imgur.com/4vBxnla.jpg
user name DocAElstein
password Sannce2CloudWay

Verification Code https://imgur.com/jXrl3g3 http://i.imgur.com/jXrl3g3.jpg https://imgur.com/YYR5QWR http://i.imgur.com/YYR5QWR.jpg
Sannce2

Guarding Vision Status Disabled : https://imgur.com/nhDn7VD http://i.imgur.com/nhDn7VD.jpg https://imgur.com/dGlEXCB http://i.imgur.com/dGlEXCB.jpg
Enable Guarding Vision Status https://imgur.com/LGbmvdc http://imgur.com/LGbmvdc.jpg
Guarding vision Status Enabled https://imgur.com/qV2j1mx http://i.imgur.com/qV2j1mx.jpg





Cloud way …

Register Account
Doc.AElstein
Sannce2CloudWay

doc.aelstein@t-online.de did not work,
gmail did

Betreff: Verification Code
Datum: 2021-01-21T11:54:47+0100
Von: "service063@hicloudcam.com"
An: "doc.aelstein@gmail.com"

Account registration security code:
7311,expires in 30 minutes.
Did not work

Nor did the next

Eventually I found that the problem was Doc.AElstein , so tried DocAElstein
Annke Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P account user name and password
user name DocAElstein
password Sannce2CloudWay

[DocAElstein]

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[DocAElstein]

aadkAHDHADADHADHDHAHD