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    Some notes to be added to in preparation for a Tutorial Thread…

    http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...se-Tests/page4 http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2384-VPN-Forum-access-and-IP-addresse-Tests/page4
    https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...se-Tests/page6 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...se-Tests/page6



    Introduction to “VPN”

    Aka. In Forum posting, hide your identity so that the insane Moderators don’t get ya!


    Very broadly speaking, there are 3 main ways to do this “hiding”
    _ a “low level” solution: In Windows you can set up VPN using existing operating system things, if you know what you are doing.
    _ a “high level” solution: Download and install all encompassing “App”. Then click the button to Hide yourself.
    _ An intermediate solution, requiring some software, but also requiring some understanding of your operating system in order to get it working like a an “App”

    Here I will look at the last option. Later I might try out the first option


    VPN Tunnelling…. What are we talking about here
    By virtual private network (VPN), in very simplified terms, we are talking here about making it seem to everyone, except very qualified and resourceful computer sources, as if the computer that you are using is somewhere else.
    As often with these sort of things, the History helps to explain it in simple terms…. Originally large companies used a form of encoding to route their computers or terminals to a central large private computer ( Server ) over a public network, the internet. It effectively made it look like all computers came from the single main private source, where the main computer was.
    The term tunnelling was used to explain the encoded link. That was the main use at that time. The fact that it made it look like all computers were where the main computer was, was a by product.
    The basic idea was then used to allow single sources/ normal users to “hide” behind people or companies allowing such a link to their main computer / Server, or more commonly to a large number of Severs which they have access to. This is often referred to as a virtual private network tunnel or virtual private network tunnel (VPN tunnelling).
    Microsoft allow a way to set up such a link using the various operating system Internet system controlling features along with a Microsoft developed encoding.
    That could be considered as one fairly low level/fundamental way to do VPN tunnelling requiring some good computer knowledge and experience at the “low level” computing.
    At the other extreme, companies offering the service via a number of Servers , will often provide their own software which is at a “high level”. In other words, you download their software , install it, after which typically you have a desktop icon or Smart phone type “Icon/App” to double click on, after which a fairly obvious to use user friendly interface pops up.

    VPN and forum posting
    The psychiatric illnesses/ Metal obsessions with many senior Forum Members and Moderators will likely remain a problem for people posting in forums for several years to come. Their desires to support their illusions of having a job of responsibility / authority, shows itself in the attempt to punish or control Members, imposes restrictions, and other tedious Nursery school children type rules. They attempt to give the illusion of controlling individuals as a form of proxy their sub ordinates.
    Stronger identities , that is to say, more longer term posting allows the identification as such an “individual” easier. It is therefore advantageous to have the ability to post using multiple accounts. ( Forum owners, ( who generally accept the idiosyncrasies of the “controlling” members , since they work for free), both secretly encourage and at the same time publicly give the appearance of discouraging multiple accounts. This helps with ”business”, as the increased apparent real Membership number raises).
    Email accounts are very easy to create for each account registration; but the use of your real location , ( your real “IP address”* ) , can sometimes be monitored by Forum Moderators. So using a VPN service is an advantage.
    (*In very simplified terms: The “thing” enabling your access to the internet, ( the “box” connected to your telephone cable, or the thing in your favourite Coffee bar giving you free internet access), has an identifying number, the “IP address”).

    Working example. hide.me VPN and SoftEther and OpenVPN clients
    A general explanation of using a VPN is of little practical use, since the organisation of internet and associated network systems within computers, in windows is an imprecise jumbled up mess. I will report on a practical working example from start to finish. The example will use the provider hide.me. They have a free and paid service which from the perspective of setting up a working system is similar.
    I will cover the operating systems of XP, Vista, Windows 7 and windows 8.1.
    In this example I will go for a middle complex solution. This will not use the high level simple to use software(“hide.me App”) , but will not go as far “down” as the use of the Operating systems built in way to do VPN tunnelling. Later posts will explore this more fundamental “deep down” way.
    The initial solution will discuss in detail the use of two popular freely available “Client” software, which is a medium level solution: It finally gives a final “App” type icon which on double clicking brings up a user friendly interface interface , but which also requires some knowledge of operating systems internet control systems, both for the extra setting up steps needed after the initial Client software instillation, and in dealing with typical problems that often crop up.


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    Clients. Getting the VPN to work. Setting up VPN Clients, SoftEther Client , and OpenVPN Client


    Very broadly speaking, there are 3 main ways to do this VPN stuff
    _ a “low level” solution: In Windows you can set up VPN using existing operating system things, if you know what you are doing.
    _ a “high level” solution: Download and install all encompassing “App”. Then click the button to Hide yourself.
    _ An intermediate solution, requiring some software, but also requiring some understanding of your operating system in order to get it working like a an “App”

    Here I will look at the last option. Later I might try out the first option

    Client
    In the context of things VPN, a Client is only loosely defined. It broadly is referring to the software part of the final VPN tunnelling solution that is on the users computer.
    So we need to get at this software.
    For the low level solution, it is hard to define a "Client", since the software is all or mostly already there, buried / integrated into the Internet parts of the controlling system/ operating system. Here we would be broadly referring to the control panel as the part of the operating system that we can influence. Within that are, amongst other things, various Internet sections and related Network sections. They are all imprecisely defined and organised. Hence giving a working solution example is preferable to a general discussion which would be of little practical use.
    At the other, high level extreme, a simple to use “App”, such as that from hide.me for operating systems Windows 7 and higher ( https://hide.me/de/software/windows ) , would be referred to as their “own VPN Client-Software

    Getting the VPN to work
    The software that we will be mostly using in the worked examples, is from two popular free sources, SoftEther and OpenVPN. Principally the software from those free sources is involved with VPN things. Specifically the software from them that we want either has the word Client somewhere in name of the files that we need, or is referred to loosely as their “Client software” or “VPN Client software”.
    As we are at a “mid/intermediate level”, we will see that we have to have some knowledge of various parts of the control panel associated with Internet and Network.
    Using the high level option such as the hide.me app, the solution would simply involve downloading and installing the app. After doing this, a simple to use , user friendly window then pops up after double clicking a desktop icon which appears after a successful instillation. Sometimes the pop up may come up when restarting the computer.
    For the option of using SoftEther or OpenVPN, there are some extra steps to be taken after the client software is installed.




    Recap: To remind us what we are doing
    Lets just step back, and say again clearly what we are doing.
    We will be looking at a way to do VPN. There are a few ways to do this. I am looking at the way that uses one of two popular freely available softwares. (Later I will look at OpenVPN)
    The software’s basic function is to organise and encrypt what you send to and what you receive from, a Server elsewhere. It does that in such a way that the Server sends and receives as if it had sent itself from that Server: Think of it as you digging a tunnel from your house to the Server. Then you somehow make a connection possibility through various cables from your computer via the tunnel to the Server. You organise the connection such that you can both
    use the server as a normal computer surfing the internet,
    and
    then send back what the Server receives from the internet to your computer via the connection in the tunnel.
    The main reason usually for doing this is to effectively “hide” behind the server – You want everyone to think that you are using that server , rather than your own computer. (In this case, the remote Server is just acting as a computer for you, surfing the internet.)
    SoftEther or OpenVPN could be thought of the thing that digs the tunnel and makes your connection, or rather gives you a switch to allow you to connect or disconnect to the remote Server as and when you choose to. ( Usually witjh such Client software, a final user friendly interface will allow you to connect or disconnect to different Servers situated at different remote locations around the real World ).
    VPN has generally been around for some time, and there will be software in many Servers allowing this sort of connection to be made. Usually, once you have the Client software installed and/or organised , then only 3 further things are required to allow your chosen Client software to make use of such a connection, all of which you will usually receive from your VPN provider :
    _ An internet address, ( one for each Server that you want to be able to connect to - ( Either the provider owns them or has some agreement with the owner to allow them/you to use them))
    _ A Username
    _ A Password
    The last two may or may not be the same Password and Username which you use to create an account with a VPN provider. This will likely vary with provider.
    For example,
    _for the VPN provider hide.me , with the free service allows you to have one connection at any one time. Your account Password and Username is also used in this case to allow that one connection at any one time to any of the 5 servers available. For each server you will need an internet address:
    For Netherlands - free-nl.hide.me
    for Singapore -free-sg.hide.me
    for Canada - free-ca.hide.me
    for US free-us.hide.me
    for US-East free-us-east.hide.me
    for US-West free-us-west.hide.me

    https://imgur.com/rXWYAyz
    _ for the VPN provider hide.me with the paid ( premium ) service allows you to have up to 5 simultaneous VPN connections. In this case, you still use your normal account Password , but have a modified Username@devicetwo for each separate connection. These different passwords may be referred to as devices .

    Most Clients, such as SoftEther VPN Client and OpenVPN Client will, once set up, allow you to have a user friendly interface from which you can select from a list of Servers. You will typically need to repeat a set of steps for each of the Servers you want to use. In Other words you need to repeat a set of steps to add them to the list in the user friendly interface from which you select your Server when you want to use VPN

    Usually, if you use a providers own Client software, which is the “high level” solution for VPN, ( sometimes referred to as their Client “App” ) , then all their available Servers are effectively already set up in it, and the list to choose from is already there. To get your VPN up and running using such a solution , you need to do little more than download and install their “App”. Often their app will start each time you start your computer thereafter. Its use is fairly obvious.

    We are looking at an intermediate level solution for VPN, so we need to do a bit of extra work after installing the Client software




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    Setting up Soft Ether And OpenVPN




    Setting up VPN Clients, SoftEther Client , and OpenVPN Client
    Installing Client software
    There are many good step by step explanations on the internet for setting up SoftEther and OpenVPN Clients, for example,
    https://hide.me/de/vpnsetup/windowsvista/softether/ , https://hide.me/de/vpnsetup/windowsxp/softether/
    https://www.limevpn.com/how-to-use/w...-xp-softether/
    https://hide.me/de/vpnsetup/windowsvista/openvpn/ , https://hide.me/de/vpnsetup/windowsxp/openvpn/
    http://www.frostvpn.com/clients/know...indows-XP.html


    You may find other guides on the internet, such as various YouTube tutorials

    The start point is usually downloading the client Software. This can be a weak point in some of the available explanations: Referenced links may not exist or may have changed their format.
    In addition, the working of different versions may be influenced by various operating system versions and/ or things may be effected by which Microsoft updates you have installed.
    I am giving a working example in my explanations, so I will give and discuss the specific software that I used, and which finally lead to a working VPN.
    I will update this section as I try out different versions.

    .exe files to install Clients
    SoftEther
    XP Vista Windows7 Windows8.1
    'softether-vpnclient-v4.30-9696-beta-2019.07.08-windows-x86_x64-intel.exe' https://app.box.com/s/got5jknov33p9x8ky8951d0dhxc0hac1
    The above .exe File may not run on some Vista Computers. This alternative may work in those cases:
    'softether-vpnclient-v4.22-9634-beta-2016.11.27-windows-x86_x64-intel.exe' https://app.box.com/s/nj2rk76riakcpyg280fax35nmb7jev1q
    OpenVPN
    Windows7 Windows8.1
    'openvpn-install-2.4.7-I607-Win7.exe' https://app.box.com/s/bdlwnoan9f3a3re0ajs3x5mfoo4ibfud
    XP Vista
    'openvpn-install-2.3.18-I001-i686.exe' https://app.box.com/s/wykxqmh0c4wi9o2upoipzbo5z32zt16z
    Note: In many literature it is suggested that the recent versions of the OpenVPN Connect Client are designed to function on Windows Vista, 7, 8, and Windows 10. In the practice , for Vista I have found that recent versions do not work, but the build given as still available for XP seems to work also for Vista. (The problem on Vista for the recent versions seems to be that a required "Tap adaptor" is not installed correctly. More on this on the detailed notes on the instillations).


    Choose a Server provider / register an account
    In the next posts a detailed discussion of the instillation and further steps necessary are discussed. In the course of this some details will be required of the Server that you are using. You will need to typically register an account with a VPN provider. This will be your choice, and there are many providers giving a paid and / or free service. Usually the initial registration is free and does not commit you to pay anything
    You need to get yourself informed , and then maybe register with a few providers and possibly try their free service if they have one and possibly consider taking out a free trial period of a paid service. But this is your choice and responsibility. Be careful of trial periods where you have to give money up front, with a promise of returned money if you choose not to finally go with that provider**.
    My recent experience and testing was not extensive. I tried the free account with hide.me whilst also trying out and looking at a few other providers, but I did not have time to look all other providers. I got good support, which has also continued after I paid for the premium service. I am happy to pay for a good service. But that is just personal choice.
    One advantage of the hide.me option is that the free service the paid one works similarly, requiring the same Client software, and other steps if required are also similar, as is the case with using the SoftEther and OpenVPN way. So you can get your systems working before deciding if you want to part with any money. ( I was also given free use of their paid service, for a trial period. But this I think is decided on individual cases. My guess is that anyone appearing genuinely possibly interested with the paid service would be offered this trial period. Many others ask for money upfront, and there are reports of difficulty in getting that money back at the end of such a trial period**)






    I recommend starting with SoftEther: It is slightly easier to install than OpenVPN, and usually requires less information from your provider.


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