Windows 10 and Office Excel

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Excel and Windows 10

My approach
These notes are based on the following ideas and opinions and will influence the approach:
Windows 10 is a bad thing. I would rather it did not exist. But I can’t stop it, and it will influence a lot of Microsoft Software that I like to use. So I need to know about it and have access to it, and make some extent to keep it under control. I will do this legally. But I expect I will need to use sometimes the very same techniques that the bad people do in order to be able to do what I have a right to do. I have already experienced this in the method I have to use to activate the legal software that I have from Microsoft. This trend will increase in Windows 10, since my first impression is that it is an all out fight from day 1 to stop the software taking over you and attempting to suck you dry.

Start point.
My start point will be currently an older computer, reconditioned that has had Windows 10 installed by someone who knows what they are doing and has done that re conditioning and has given me the instillation DVD. ( http://i.imgur.com/QZ2EN9C.jpg http://i.imgur.com/u1QOc9M.jpg )
I have start somewhere, and I am very reluctant to start with a new computer, since there are almost certainly deals with Microsoft and the computer manufacturer which will sabotage any attempts you may try to make at taming the Windows 10 beast inside.
Since part of the strategy of Microsoft has been to lure people into updating their previous systems , there are various measures taken to make this possible, and you have a better chance to control the beast if you utilise the instillation discs and processes that have made available to assist in this updating.
Think of it as like a beast that can’t swim on the other side of river and he wants to eat you. He may help you try to build a way to cross the river. You may be able to use that help to your advantage, and avoid being eaten , even if you do go on the other side of the river.

Divide up the Hard drive disc: “Partitioning” the main internal Hard Drive disc.
*Partition or partitioning, is the name given to the process which makes a single HDD behave similar to two separate HDDs
Why do it?
I think this is almost always a good idea. Especially when you have a new computer.
Typically if you look at the explore window for the computer, you will see possibly a small D: thing, which already may be using a very small part of the main physical drive as a small partition, and you will possibly also see a DVD disc drive if you have one, as well as any USB sticks which you may have connected to your computer at that time.
But most noticeably, you will see typically that your main C: thing, is taking up all the space on your main HDD, but is only currently using a small part of it.
Lots of space on your C drive.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IzlxONI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IzlxONI.jpg
Attachment 2713Attachment 2714

For me, a possible final goal will be to have both
_ a “Dual boot system”, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtop...=31638#p244809 ) , with Windows 10 being there for if I must use it, and a different operating system as the standard one on the computer ;
And
_ I would also like to investigate the various repair / recovery / back up options.

For a dual boot system , it generally seems to be necessary to have a “separate part” for each operating system. This means either a separate physical internally integrated hard disc, or a single physical internally integrated hard disc which is organised such that two parts behave very similar to two separate physical discs. In other words they are “partitioned”.
( Partition is the name given to the process which makes a single HDD behave similar to two separate HDDs *)

For the various documented repair / recovery / back up options, sometimes a part of the hard disc is used. I will try to avoid this, if possible, as I think I do not have too much free space to play with: The hard drive is fairly small by what I think are today’s standards, it was given as 250GB HDD in the sales info. Looking at the “My Computer” explorer window it was showing me that 190GB were free from a total of 232GB. ( A few bits of free software had been pre installed, not much.)

In later versions of Windows, it seems that the partitioning can be done quite easily using the internal windows user available control software. Most people seem to take this option. There are many free instructions on this. Here are a few tutorials and web site links: http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...l=1#post121201



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Using Windows user available control system management software to partition HDD

Under later windows versions, such partitions can be easily created and edited even after installing the operating system. It seems that most people are using this method. As it is offered by Microsoft and made very easy to do I am a bit suspicious. But for now I will do it.
( (External Software might do it a bit better:
If I have understood correctly, the common way offered by Windows 10 of doing it is pretty good.
If you alternatively use some other good established external software, then you may be able to do it a bit better. The reason for this is because without windows running you can shift everything, and so can shrink a bit better: If you use the way offered by Windows 10 , then some bits of software that are in use can’t be shifted too well – as the old saying goes …”You can’t shift a Rake while ya standing on it”…
One talks about “non shiftable” data , http://i.imgur.com/393MAHd.jpg
To get the external software to work you are likely going to need to do stuff like interrupt your computer starting and get it to start up from something like an external DVD. So it is a bit more difficult.. …( see for example , in the Video list in the next post: 8 GParted SOFTWARE Windows 7 und 10 Partitionen verwalten + verkleinern - GParted - nicht verschiebbare Dateien-wMmkPSJAtdg_Tuhl Teim DE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMmkPSJAtdg Tuhl Teim DE ( software ) ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nmd...?usp=drive_web
) ) ) )


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Excel and Windows 10

My approach
These notes are based on the following ideas and opinions and will influence the approach:
Windows 10 is a bad thing. I would rather it did not exist. But I can't stop it, and it will influence a lot of Microsoft Software that I like to use. So I need to know about it and have access to it, and make some extent to keep it under control. I will do this legally. But I expect I will need to use sometimes the very same techniques that the bad people do in order to be able to do what I have a right to do. I have alrrady experienced this in the method I have to use to activate the legal software that I have from Microsoft. This trend will increase in Windows 10, since my first impression is that it is an all out fight from day 1 to stop the software taking over you and attempting to suck you dry.

Start point.
My start point will be currently an older computer, reconditioned that has had Windows 10 installed by someone who knows what they are doing and has done that re conditioning and has given me the instillation DVD. ( https://imgur.com/QZ2EN9C https://imgur.com/u1QOc9M )
I have start somewhere, and I am very reluctant to start with a new computer, since there are almost certainly deals with Microsoft and the computer manufacturer which will sabotage any attempts you may try to make at taming the Windows 10 beast inside.
Since part of the strategy of Microsoft has been to lure people into updating their previous systems , there are various measures taken to make this possible, and you have a better chance to control the beast if you utilise the instillation discs and processes that have made available to assist in this updating.
Think of it as like a beast that can't swim on the other side of river and he wants to eat you. He may help you try to build a way to cross the river. You may be able to use that help to your advantage, and avoid being eaten , even if you do go on the other side of the river.

Divide up the Hard drive disc: "Partitioning" the main internal Hard Drive disc.
*Partition or partitioning, is the name given to the process which makes a single HDD behave similar to two separate HDDs
Why do it?
I think this is almost always a good idea. Especially when you have a new computer.
Typically if you look at the explore window for the computer, you will see possibly a small D: thing, which already may be using a very small part of the main physical drive as a small partition, and you will possibly also see a DVD disc drive if you have one, as well as any USB sticks which you may have connected to your computer at that time.
But most noticeably, you will see typically that your main C: thing, is taking up all the space on your main HDD, but is only currently using a small part of it.
Lots of space on your C drive.jpg https://imgur.com/IzlxONI https://imgur.com/IzlxONI
Attachment 2713Attachment 2714

For me, a possible final goal will be to have both
_ a "Dual boot system", ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtop...=31638#p244809 ) , with Windows 10 being there for if I must use it, and a different operating system as the standard one on the computer ;
And
_ I would also like to investigate the various repair / recovery / back up options.

For a dual boot system , it generally seems to be necessary to have a "separate part" for each operating system. This means either a separate physical internally integrated hard disc, or a single physical internally integrated hard disc which is organised such that two parts behave very similar to two separate physical discs. In other words they are "partitioned".
( Partition is the name given to the process which makes a single HDD behave similar to two separate HDDs *)

For the various documented repair / recovery / back up options, sometimes a part of the hard disc is used. I will try to avoid this, if possible, as I think I do not have too much free space to play with: The hard drive is fairly small by what I think are today's standards, it was given as 250GB HDD in the sales info. Looking at the "My Computer" explorer window it was showing me that 190GB were free from a total of 232GB. ( A few bits of free software had been pre installed, not much.)

In later versions of Windows, it seems that the partitioning can be done quite easily using the internal windows user available control software. Most people seem to take this option. There are many free instructions on this. Here are a few tutorials and web site links: http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showth...l=1#post121201


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Using Windows user available control system management software to partition HDD

Under later windows versions, such partitions can be easily created and edited even after installing the operating system. It seems that most people are using this method. As it is offered by Microsoft and made very easy to do I am a bit suspicious. But for now I will do it.
( [color=grey][size=2] (External Software might do it a bit better:
If I have understood correctly, the common way offered by Windows 10 of doing it is pretty good.
If you alternatively use some other good established external software, then you may be able to do it a bit better. The reason for this is because without windows running you can shift everything, and so can shrink a bit better: If you use the way offered by Windows 10 , then some bits of software that are in use can't be shifted too well

Using Windows user available control system management software to partition HDD

Under later windows versions, such partitions can be easily created and edited even after installing the operating system. It seems that most people are using this method. As it is offered by Microsoft and made very easy to do I am a bit suspicious. But for now I will do it.

Find the management control console.
You need initially to get at the controlling / managements software. Once you have the Disk manager Window open , the complete Partition process can be done very quickly…

If you are familiar with earlier Windows versions you will probably have had some experience navigating in an “explorer” type way to these sort of things.
Microsoft seem to be changing / moving in a direction backwards/ sideways or just moving / changing for the sake of it. It seems to be getting generally less intuitive to find these sort of user available control things.
Instead you are faced with pretty smart phone type App pictures and small pretty square icons.
You need to train yourself not to get lost in their newer pretty interfaces.

Never mind.. There are a few ways to find the Disc manager window / control console that you need...
_ (i) Semi - Navigating way
**Hit the Microsoft symbol bottom left, and look for a small search bar or search window. **You may already have a search bar bottom left or somewhere else
Type in something like , Control , Sytemsteuerung , or Management or similar .
A window of some form, or blue / white / light blue outline with some options may come up bottom left. Try to find something that eventually looks like the sketches below….. http://i.imgur.com/pdZdisy.jpg
You may have an in between stop and see a window that you may recognise as the Sytemsteuerung/Control panel start window. You could try there top right in the search bar typing in something of the form of Management / verwaltung / Administration.

You are finally trying to find the window below, going by the name of something like
Festplattenpartitionen erstellen und formatieren
Datenträgerverwalten
Create and format disk partitions
Disk Management

Semi Navigate To Disk Management.jpg http://i.imgur.com/jr48NVv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/pdZdisy.jpg
Disk Management.jpg http://i.imgur.com/S31moCb.jpg
Attachment 2719

_ (ii) Command window way.
Hit [Microsoft Symbol key] + [Key R]
Type in compmgmt.msc then [OK]
That should bring up a Computer Management Window from which you can probably find the option to click to get the Disk Management Window
Computer Management.jpg http://i.imgur.com/S31moCb.jpg

_ (iii) Right click on Microsoft Symblol..
Right click on the Microsoft Symbol, bottom left, then look for an option like Disk Management
Right Click Start Disk Management.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/GoaUyZJ.jpg

_(iv) Right click on This PC symbol , for example from the left hand side of the typical File explorer, then select Disk Manage
Right Click on This PC Manage.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FBQB6v9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/j2qTRqn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mnACIdz.jpg



Once you have the Disk manager Window open , the complete Partition process can be done very quickly… Basically we want to split up / divide the C drive, http://i.imgur.com/x84qwTa.jpg , but we don’t want to damage stuff on it. What we can often do is to shrink it…..

Shrinking / Reduce Volume ( of main partition )
This is most likely the next step. This is the main in built feature which simplifies partitioning, allowing such partitions to be easily created even after an operating system has been installed
Assuming that you have a main large partition, ( most likely indicated by C: ) , this can be reduced, and so making available “free space” on the HDD
Right click on this, and select something like Reduce/Shrink Volume
Reduce Volume.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/zkLm8AA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tP3Iw1L.jpg

That is likely to take between a few seconds to a few minutes, and you should resist the temptation to do anything whilst it is being done
Eventually you will be offered the largest that is available to have “free” after. You can reduce that, in other words have less available, and consequently leave more space on the original partition, ( which you are about to reduce in size). The amount that you are offered seems to be quite a bit less than was shown as “free available” on the original partition. Presumably some allowance has been made so that you do not cripple the computer by leaving it not enough “room” to “work in”
Reduce Volume Offer.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/pevSryH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tP3Iw1L.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MjiwqzQ.jpg
For my first attempt, I will go with the offered values.
To Summarise what I had and am getting after the reduction
My HDD was somewhere in the region of 230GB-250GB, and most of that seemed to be as typical on the ““ C: ” drive”.
An indication was given that I had about 190GB “free”. So presumable about 50GB had been used for the Operating System and a few other things that were pre installed.
On attempting to shrink the ““ C: ” drive” , I was offered up to about 110GB, leaving the original ““ C: ” drive” at about 130GB

On clicking on reduce/shrink , you may need to wait a while, and once again, you should resist the temptation to do anything whilst it is being done. Finally you should see something of this form:
Reduced Volume.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qGr2i9V.jpg

( In that last screenshot the ““ D: ” drive” is actually a USB stick connected to the computer. )

The partitioning is not quite finished yet. At this stage the C: is now in its final new state, but the extra new space is now like a “wasteland”. It is not recognised as anything. It won’t show up on any typical explorer window.
You now have to right click on the newly shown area and select something like, New Simple Volume
New Simple Volume.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/jrXdq7B.jpg

After that, the steps are fairly self explanatory, and initially I ignore most options which would be for more advanced stuff
Generally you would
_ Accept the suggested shrinked size
Accept Shrink suggestion.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/e3wIgYD.jpg
_ Choose a new letter for the drive, I chose V ,
Chose V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/unOOhRx.jpg
_ Chose to Format as is the default option. ( You can do this later, but for a simple first attempt I take the suggested option )
( At this stage you can also name the new drive. I chose OS 2 , as initially I am proposing to use the new drive for a second Operating System )
Chose to format.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UuQxDl4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3FGZq6c.jpg


( If you have the time, it might be worth unclicking the quick Formatting. I am not sure exactly what the difference is, but there have been suggestions that it might check for damage / and or be more thorough in completely wiping any information off: It seems that in general, Formatting my not quite completely “wipe clean”. It may “tidy” or “clean away” and make ready for new use. Some professionals recommend using software to completely wipe clean, before formatting. )

_ As far as I know that is all I need to do. This bit of the original , ( C: in our case) , is now effectively seen as a separate entity, the “V: entity”, or “V: drive”. ( It is still physically on the same drive as C: )
What is now effectively the C: drive, cannot directly use the new volume. It can only manipulate it in a similar way to how it can manipulate and control other storage things, such as external USB sticks. As far as C: is concerned, it is just another storage device. So doing something like installing software on the C: will not directly do anything to the V: entity. This should go a long way to help prevent that a virus effecting C does not get so easily at the V: . It will not completely guarantee it, but it is less likely since most viruses find there way from things via the internet. The internet has no direct way to get at the V: when the V : is not in use.

So finally I seem to have the following results, summarised approximately:
C: 125GB
V: 105GB

C and V partitions.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/Mfm5aJH.jpg
C and V drives.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/7ZBoBOy.jpg
C and V.jpg : http://i.imgur.com/cod7tOQ.jpg
Attachment 2720

As always, the various numbers seem to approximately tie up. In this case I have approximately “split” an original 230GB into 125GB + 105GB
I think a ball park figure for an operating system and a few bits of software such as Microsoft Office seems to need about 20-40GB, so hopefully I can later use my new 105GB V: partition for that purpose.



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Two “drives”? Significance
What we have now is a single physical HDD which is separated into two main areas. The main significance of this, as far as I know, is that not all things can be done by one on the other.
Most importantly, if we have an operating system on one part, as we still do in our case on the C: “drive” , then the other V: “drive” is mostly seen as simple storage thing. So the operating system is limited in what it can do to it.
( The word “drive” is used a bit loosely and is possibly a poor choice of wording since both are on the same actual physical HDD. It also should not be confused with Drivers , which we discus in the over over next post and is a completely different thing. )
At this point we have not gained much. We could just as well have left things as they were and connected an external storage device such as a simple USB stick.
The important advantage comes about because most usually, an integrated internal HDD is required in a computer to allow instillation and to run an operating system. Now, as far as the computer is concerned, it “sees” effectively 2 integrated internal HDDs
We can , for example, install a second Operating System on the new “ V: drive”.
So we still could say , so what?? –
The best way to think of that is to compare it as if in a vehicle we have two independent engines.
Engines and computer operating system are both complicated things. There is a lot to go wrong. But there is much less chance of a problem arising that would simultaneously cause serious damage to both engines, especially if we are only using one, that is to say, only have access to one, at a time.
This comparison can be applied directly to an operating system which may get a bug, or be corrupted when in use, for example as the result of a virus or other malicious attack from the internet.
It is not completely impossible that some malicious attack or virus might be able to damage both “drives”, but it is much less likely than being possible to damage the one that is in use.
Other advantages, are that one healthy operating system might be able to assist in some process to repair should the other operating system become damaged or corrupted

Other advantages for me are that I would like to have an older stable operating system which I am familiar with alongside the possibility to have the newest supported operating system to help “keep in touch” and for the cases when only one operating system will work for some particular requirement.

One thing that could of course cause problems in both operating system is if the actual physical HDD fails. We do not actually have physically two separate HDDs , even though often one tends to use the word “drive” or “drives”


In the over over next posts I will look at doing “Back up” things in preparation for installing or re installing operating systems on either of , ( our now 2 ) main “drives”
In the over next post I will add from time to time Tutorial info related to partitioning
In the next post is a short set of instruction to reverse the partitioning process done in this post.

[FONT=Arial][size=3] [color="#3E0000"]

Using Windows user available control system management software to partition HDD

Under later windows versions, such partitions can be easily created and edited even after installing the operating system. It seems that most people are using this method. As it is offered by Microsoft and made very easy to do I am a bit suspicious. But for now I will do it.

Find the management control console.
You need initially to get at the controlling / managements software. Once you have the Disk manager Window open , the complete Partition process can be done very quickly…

If you are familiar with earlier Windows versions you will probably have had some experience navigating in an "explorer" type way to these sort of things.
Microsoft seem to be changing / moving in a direction backwards/ sideways or just moving / changing for the sake of it. It seems to be getting generally less intuitive to find these sort of user available control things.
Instead you are faced with pretty smart phone type App pictures and small pretty square icons.
You need to train yourself not to get lost in their newer pretty interfaces.

Never mind.. There are a few ways to find the Disc manager window / control console that you need...
_ (i) Semi - Navigating way
**Hit the Microsoft symbol bottom left, and look for a small search bar or search window. **You may already have a search bar bottom left or somewhere else
Type in something like , Control , Sytemsteuerung , or Management or similar .
A window of some form, or blue / white / light blue outline with some options may come up bottom left. Try to find something that eventually looks like the sketches below….. https://imgur.com/pdZdisy
You may have an in between stop and see a window that you may recognise as the Sytemsteuerung/Control panel start window. You could try there top right in the search bar typing in something of the form of Management / verwaltung / Administration.

You are finally trying to find the window below, going by the name of something like
Festplattenpartitionen erstellen und formatieren
Datenträgerverwalten
Create and format disk partitions
Disk Management

Semi Navigate To Disk Management.jpg https://imgur.com/jr48NVv https://imgur.com/pdZdisy
Disk Management.jpg https://imgur.com/S31moCb
Attachment 2719

_ (ii) Command window way.
Hit [Microsoft Symbol key] + [Key R]
Type in compmgmt.msc then [OK]
That should bring up a Computer Management Window from which you can probably find the option to click to get the Disk Management Window
Computer Management.jpg https://imgur.com/S31moCb

_ (iii) Right click on Microsoft Symblol..
Right click on the Microsoft Symbol, bottom left, then look for an option like Disk Management
Right Click Start Disk Management.jpg : https://imgur.com/GoaUyZJ

_(iv) Right click on This PC symbol , for example from the left hand side of the typical File explorer, then select Disk Manage
Right Click on This PC Manage.jpg https://imgur.com/FBQB6v9 https://imgur.com/j2qTRqn https://imgur.com/mnACIdz



Once you have the Disk manager Window open , the complete Partition process can be done very quickly… Basically we want to split up / divide the C drive, https://imgur.com/x84qwTa , but we don't want to damage stuff on it. What we can often do is to shrink it…..

Shrinking / Reduce Volume ( of main partition )
This is most likely the next step. This is the main in built feature which simplifies partitioning, allowing such partitions to be easily created even after an operating system has been installed
Assuming that you have a main large partition, ( most likely indicated by C: ) , this can be reduced, and so making available "free space" on the HDD
Right click on this, and select something like Reduce/Shrink Volume
Reduce Volume.jpg : https://imgur.com/zkLm8AA https://imgur.com/tP3Iw1L

That is likely to take between a few seconds to a few minutes, and you should resist the temptation to do anything whilst it is being done
Eventually you will be offered the largest that is available to have "free" after. You can reduce that, in other words have less available, and consequently leave more space on the original partition, ( which you are about to reduce in size). The amount that you are offered seems to be quite a bit less than was shown as "free available" on the original partition. Presumably some allowance has been made so that you do not cripple the computer by leaving it not enough "room" to "work in"
Reduce Volume Offer.jpg : https://imgur.com/pevSryH https://imgur.com/tP3Iw1L https://imgur.com/MjiwqzQ
For my first attempt, I will go with the offered values.
To Summarise what I had and am getting after the reduction
My HDD was somewhere in the region of 230GB-250GB, and most of that seemed to be as typical on the "" C: " drive".
An indication was given that I had about 190GB "free". So presumable about 50GB had been used for the Operating System and a few other things that were pre installed.
On attempting to shrink the "" C: " drive" , I was offered up to about 110GB, leaving the original "" C: " drive" at about 130GB

On clicking on reduce/shrink , you may need to wait a while, and once again, you should resist the temptation to do anything whilst it is being done. Finally you should see something of this form:
Reduced Volume.jpg https://imgur.com/qGr2i9V

( In that last screenshot the "" D: " drive" is actually a USB stick connected to the computer. )

The partitioning is not quite finished yet. At this stage the C: is now in its final new state, but the extra new space is now like a "wasteland". It is not recognised as anything. It won't show up on any typical explorer window.
You now have to right click on the newly shown area and select something like, New Simple Volume
New Simple Volume.jpg : https://imgur.com/jrXdq7B

After that, the steps are fairly self explanatory, and initially I ignore most options which would be for more advanced stuff
Generally you would
_ Accept the suggested shrinked size
Accept Shrink suggestion.jpg : https://imgur.com/e3wIgYD
_ Choose a new letter for the drive, I chose V ,
Chose V.jpg https://imgur.com/unOOhRx
_ Chose to Format as is the default option. ( You can do this later, but for a simple first attempt I take the suggested option )
( At this stage you can also name the new drive. I chose OS 2 , as initially I am proposing to use the new drive for a second Operating System )
Chose to format.jpg https://imgur.com/UuQxDl4 https://imgur.com/3FGZq6c


( If you have the time, it might be worth unclicking the quick Formatting. I am not sure exactly what the difference is, but there have been suggestions that it might check for damage / and or be more thorough in completely wiping any information off: It seems that in general, Formatting my not quite completely "wipe clean". It may "tidy" or "clean away" and make ready for new use. Some professionals recommend using software to completely wipe clean, before formatting. )

_ As far as I know that is all I need to do. This bit of the original , ( C: in our case) , is now effectively seen as a separate entity, the "V: entity", or "V: drive". ( It is still physically on the same drive as C: )
What is now effectively the C: drive, cannot directly use the new volume. It can only manipulate it in a similar way to how it can manipulate and control other storage things, such as external USB sticks. As far as C: is concerned, it is just another storage device. So doing something like installing software on the C: will not directly do anything to the V: entity. This should go a long way to help prevent that a virus effecting C does not get so easily at the V: . It will not completely guarantee it, but it is less likely since most viruses find there way from things via the internet. The internet has no direct way to get at the V: when the V : is not in use.

So finally I seem to have the following results, summarised approximately:
C: 125GB
V: 105GB

C and V partitions.jpg : https://imgur.com/Mfm5aJH
C and V drives.jpg : https://imgur.com/7ZBoBOy
C and V.jpg : https://imgur.com/cod7tOQ
Attachment 2720

As always, the various numbers seem to approximately tie up. In this case I have approximately "split" an original 230GB into 125GB + 105GB
I think a ball park figure for an operating system and a few bits of software such as Microsoft Office seems to need about 20-40GB, so hopefully I can later use my new 105GB V: partition for that purpose.



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Two "drives"? Significance
What we have now is a single physical HDD which is separated into two main areas. The main significance of this, as far as I know, is that not all things can be done by one on the other.
Most importantly, if we have an operating system on one part, as we still do in our case on the C: "drive" , then the other V: "drive" is mostly seen as simple storage thing. So the operating system is limited in what it can do to it.
( The word "drive" is used a bit loosely and is possibly a poor choice of wording since both are on the same actual physical HDD. It also should not be confused with Drivers , which we discus in the over over next post and is a completely different thing. )
At this point we have not gained much. We could just as well have left things as they were and connected an external storage device such as a simple USB stick.
The important advantage comes about because most usually, an integrated internal HDD is required in a computer to allow instillation and to run an operating system. Now, as far as the computer is concerned, it "sees" effectively 2 integrated internal HDDs
We can , for example, install a second Operating System on the new " V: drive".
So we still could say , so what??

Reverse the process
2 simple steps is all that is needed using the Windows user available control system management to undo what we just did.
_ 1 Delete the volume we just created:
Delete Volume.jpg : https://imgur.com/TlMRult
Attachment 2715

The volume is then back in its "Not assigned" state. Because it has not been assigned it no longer is shown in the typical explore computer window, but the original ( C: in our case) drive is still limited to the shrunk size:
C Still Shrunk.jpg : https://imgur.com/eCe6BV8
Attachment 2716

The "empty" space is now spare, it is no longer being seen as an effective separate entity.
_ 2 extend the volume
One final step effectively extends the C: space back to enclose most of the available space on this physical drive. Right click on the still shrunk bit and chose the option to extend:
Exten Volume.jpg : https://imgur.com/QfJwirZ
Attachment 2717


A "Wizard" Window comes up , and if you leave all the default options and keep clicking "Next" then you will end up back at the situation before we started doing any partitioning.
Back to original non partitioned situation.jpg . https://imgur.com/RwAHcKA
Attachment 2718

Reverse the process
2 simple steps is all that is needed using the Windows user available control system management to undo what we just did.
_ 1 Delete the volume we just created:
Delete Volume.jpg : https://imgur.com/TlMRult
Attachment 2715

The volume is then back in its "Not assigned" state. Because it has not been assigned it no longer is shown in the typical explore computer window, but the original ( C: in our case) drive is still limited to the shrunk size:
C Still Shrunk.jpg : https://imgur.com/eCe6BV8
Attachment 2716

The "empty" space is now spare, it is no longer being seen as an effective separate entity.
_ 2 extend the volume
One final step effectively extends the C: space back to enclose most of the available space on this physical drive. Right click on the still shrunk bit and chose the option to extend:
Exten Volume.jpg : https://imgur.com/QfJwirZ
Attachment 2717


A "Wizard" Window comes up , and if you leave all the default options and keep clicking "Next" then you will end up back at the situation before we started doing any partitioning.
Back to original non partitioned situation.jpg . https://imgur.com/RwAHcKA
Attachment 2718

I have collected some links to Youtube Tutorials on Windows 10 Partitioning. It may not be complete since the internet is flooded with info.
I have tried to order them in an approximate order of usefulness: Very approximately the number at the left is a 1 to 10 rating, so the first few should give you most of the information.

There is the standard You tube internet link, and also a link to a copy of the video in Windows Media Player, .WMV format.
I personally found it useful to put all the .WMV files in a folder, then if you select them all , you can right click and select something like Play, https://imgur.com/uFPSoPm and then you will get a repeating continuous long play of all the videos without adverts. I left this running in the background on an old computer for a few days whilst I did something else, so I slowly picked up all the information without too much effort.
Highlight all WMV videos Right click Play.jpg : https://imgur.com/uFPSoPm




German

9 Windows 10 Festplatte_SSD - Partitionen löschen + formatieren + neu anlegen-_vr5_FYVVwc_Tuhl Teim DE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7HHJrAOno&t=210s Tuhl Teim DE ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FJL...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/j19krztzz3cphmbkv0ib7ifglwxfxuyd https://drive.google.com/file/d/1osu...?usp=drive_web

9 Wie man seine Festplatte NICHT partitionieren sollte bei Windows 10 - HDD oder SSD - [4K]-vC7HHJrAOno_Tuhl Teim DE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vr5_FYVVwc Tuhl Teim DE ( sound )

8 GParted SOFTWARE Windows 7 und 10 Partitionen verwalten + verkleinern - GParted - nicht verschiebbare Dateien-wMmkPSJAtdg_Tuhl Teim DE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMmkPSJAtdg Tuhl Teim DE ( software ) ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nmd...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/lmg2lgjlfwsd69pqb6wz524b6ko1tnuq

8 Windows 10 neue Partition erstellen Tutorial _ Partition auf genutzter Festplatte einrichten-iT7UOXYOOZA_KreativEcke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT7UOXYOOZA KreativEcke ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/101R...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/8mdjpcsssk6h26qnsbziupldz5htrdbu


7.5 Windows 10 SSD / Festplatte aufräumen + säubern - Datenmüll beseitigen - Windows schneller machen Tuhl Teim DE ( sound ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owHFc80chuA&t=497s https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Oa...?usp=drive_web


7.5 Festplatte formatieren und partitionieren unter Windows 10 _ Neue Partitionen erstellen-W-xsNVkKixA_KreativEcke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-xsNVkKixA KreativEcke ( sound ) https://app.box.com/s/in3rsmvfgxxbb23oecksaoodgve1rw4w https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kll...?usp=drive_web

7.5 Festplatten unter Windows 10 partitionieren und Festplattenfehler nach Windows Installation beheben.-MRzLzSt8uBs_lizengo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRzLzSt8uBs lizengo ( sound ) https://app.box.com/s/dji1ohfm9552ll7gb36wygxk9bizynej https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vq2...?usp=drive_web

7 TUTORIAL-TOWN.DE - WINDOWS 10 - PARTITIONEN LOESCHEN-mntXHyuRFQc_Andre Herzog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mntXHyuRFQc Andre Herzog ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Eqb...?usp=drive_web

7 Verwalten von Partitionen in Windows 10--jqLCq740kw_Dell Deutschland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jqLCq740kw Dell Deutschland ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I-V...?usp=drive_web

7 Windows - Partitionen verkleinern und erweitern mit Fortschrittsanzeige-iePwNZf14Wc_eKiwi-Blog Tutorials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iePwNZf14Wc eKiwi-Blog Tutorials ( sound )

7 Wie man seine Festplatte NICHT partitionieren sollte bei Windows 10 - HDD oder SSD - [4K]-vC7HHJrAOno_Tuhl Teim DE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7HHJrAOno&t=210s Tuhl Teim DE ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lFh...?usp=drive_web

6.5 Windows 10_ Festplatten oder SSD einfach partitionieren-3d0neQtk30g_SeiboldSoft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d0neQtk30g SeiboldSoft ( sound )

6 Festplatten Partition erstellen und löschen unter Windows-UDKeg5MXihE_Maxico Anleitungen und Tutorials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDKeg5MXihE Maxico Anleitungen und Tutorials ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n_9...?usp=drive_web

6 Festplatte formatieren und partitionieren unter Windows 10 _ Neue Partitionen erstellen-W-xsNVkKixA_KreativEcke.wmv https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IKi...?usp=drive_web

5 Festplatte formatieren - schnell und einfach in Windows 10-ysAjBiq23-k_jubadoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysAjBiq23-k jubadoo ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wc-...?usp=drive_web

5 Festplatte partitionieren - Partition mit Windows 10 erstellen-MrCd3d1hi4U_jubadoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrCd3d1hi4U jubadoo ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ft0...?usp=drive_web

5 Festplatten unter Windows 10 partitionieren und Festplattenfehler nach Windows Installation beheben.-MRzLzSt8uBs_lizengo https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tFZ...?usp=drive_web

4-- PROBLEM with download -- Wie man seine Festplatte NICHT partitionieren sollte bei Windows 10 - HDD oder SSD - [4K]-vC7HHJrAOno_Tuhl Teim DE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7HHJrAOno Tuhl Teim DE ( sound )

3 Eine Festplatte partitionieren in Windows 10 - zwei oder mehr Volumes erstellen-YR06XmfwyO0(1)_von wegen intuitiv! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR06XmfwyO0 von wegen intuitiv! ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zKl...?usp=drive_web

I have collected some links to Youtube Tutorials on Windows 10 Partitioning. It may not be complete since the internet is flooded with info.
I have tried to order them in an approximate order of usefulness: Very approximately the number at the left is a 1 to 10 rating, so the first few should give you most of the information.

There is the standard You tube internet link, and also a link to a copy of the video in Windows Media Player, .WMV format.
I personally found it useful to put all the .WMV files in a folder, then if you select them all , you can right click and select something like Play, https://imgur.com/uFPSoPm and then you will get a repeating continuous long play of all the videos without adverts. I left this running in the background on an old computer for a few days whilst I did something else, so I slowly picked up all the information without too much effort.
Highlight all WMV videos Right click Play.jpg : https://imgur.com/uFPSoPm



English ( and a few that might be HINDI or similar )

9 C Drive Partition Windows 10 to Multiple Drives [Easy Steps]-h6deFAY_pG0_Meganadha Reddy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6deFAY_pG0 Meganadha Reddy ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z6z...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/3e6zc62rjplmg5iizbu0wvsxt3pf41q8

8 How to easily partition a hard drive in Windows 10-WLo6sW4clYY_Kundan Bhattarai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLo6sW4clYY Kundan Bhattarai ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DHE...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/ejw8af5h81ahtrucojmejjh18c1slouk

8 How to Partition a Hard Drive in Windows 10-VxGfe3bVAaQ_HOWZA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGfe3bVAaQ HOWZA ( sound )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zvq3jHqUBA MDTechVideo ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/10HK...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/7lgba3r5pmnbp1rxt6b3uki88btjvbv1

8 How to Partition a Hard Drive on Windows 10 (Official Dell Tech Support)-InBp1in3di0_TechSupportDell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBp1in3di0 TechSupportDell ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uwP...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/hlfqmctzehpozsdeokfes5iwzannq4r5

8 How to create Partition on Windows 10 _ Partition Hard Drives-_HgjasKuOBw_ProgrammingKnowledge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HgjasKuOBw ProgrammingKnowledge ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ytd...?usp=drive_web https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvU...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/8ppuqbvpxex1xiozzwkzb1v5s0gaobpz

8 How to shrink a partition in Windows 10-PDPkfALKcO8_Robert McMillen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDPkfALKcO8 Robert McMillen ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-ws...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/rd9t7nupqygodage2ry1etg0lwt0p7hf

8 Windows 10 - How To_ Partition Hard Drives-pdHjolzl7Gk_On MSFT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHjolzl7Gk On MSFT ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jsx...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/stbjqwmk5gwhiqdl3udqokojw3m6ko01

8 How to Partition C Drive in Windows 10 Without Formatting-zHH3USartuo_TechSolving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHH3USartuo TechSolving ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fJh...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/umuqbdloaufiw3m74q66jwme0e8r9uow

8 Windows 10 - How To Partition Hard Drives [Tutorial]-wQQ-ohOdcZU_MDTechVideos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQ-ohOdcZU MDTechVideos ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/12Pz...?usp=drive_web

8 TAMIL ICONS How to partition a hard drive on Windows -7_8_8.1_10.. TAMIL- Jeffraj-yUuQ4nFjUoA_HASHTAG YOGARAJ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUuQ4nFjUoA HASHTAG YOGARAJ ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1333...?usp=drive_web https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X_A...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/gmvgv6ig4i4ld6xvqu3u7lr4sw0g6bpj

8 How to Partition Your PC-s Hard Drive-hyRJA2sFIwE_PCWorld https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyRJA2sFIwE PCWorld ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LXy...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/nk2noqdejol8objx7xhux7yl6ymasdf1

8 FUNNY What are Drive Partitions_-AeUM4kR67XQ_Techquickie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeUM4kR67XQ Techquickie ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EE1...?usp=drive_web

8 Windows 10 Disk Management Partition New Drive-z1yYs1WqA0s_Dark Effects Studios https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1yYs1WqA0s Dark Effects Studios ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/12RW...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/b4770zfso091oznaqkqwv6rdmibwxdpq

8 How to partition a hard drive on windows 10-ug2n7Fn8gWU_TechieDS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug2n7Fn8gWU TechieDS ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/133Z...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/p3oot1ri61gwbila1rgsg01nh7b15oif

7.5 Completely format hard drive removing all partitions (including OEM)-6lTrZopRtE8_Aron Alliston https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lTrZopRtE8 Aron Alliston ( sound ) https://app.box.com/s/e8nkvnahgr4u9ie7yruek85gxqs9qugo https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wXc...?usp=drive_web

7 How to partition and resize a hard drive using Windows 10-W-8f3RUyR2I_tmanproductions2000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8f3RUyR2I tmanproductions2000 ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T9B...?usp=drive_web

7 How to create a partition in Windows 10-myC6WojlK3c(1)_Robert McMillen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myC6WojlK3c Robert McMillen ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s5P...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/6imr9tegtd7017o6x1f0a608vr8esod7

7 Partition remove How to remove hard disk drive partitions in windows 10-t19Ah90zzgw_URTechDotCa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9WkByh-zU ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cza...?usp=drive_web

7 How to create hard disk drive partitions in windows 10-YdIsRQyvPpY_Leszek Burda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdIsRQyvPpY Leszek Burda ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tmI...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/ixv7ze9x0clf3y98cxkibghzu63874lb

7 Create or Resize a Partition on Windows 10│How-To-IksBwNbpgeU_Techddictive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IksBwNbpgeU Techddictive ( Sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bG2...?usp=drive_web

6.5 how to create a hard drive partition on windows 10-CdZXabg3_PQ_2techme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8WzSRQ2NtY 2techme ( NO sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tEN...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/hoxs9wlkqhfcxc3pn6qxblapok99zmom

6 How to format and partition a hard disk drive in Windows-jpvQKNYfVh0_CareyHolzman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpvQKNYfVh0 CareyHolzman ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/17GX...?usp=drive_web

6 HINDI How to do Hard Disk Partition in Windows 10 by #egadgets4u-54sXq3fOwTo_eGadgets4u https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54sXq3fOwTo eGadgets4u ( Hindi ) ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/19SA...?usp=drive_web

6 HINDI Hard Drive Data Recovery _ How to Partition Computer Hard Drives _ Computer Drive का Partition करें.-zzE47MGrT84_WMV V9.wmv https://drive.google.com/file/d/15M7...?usp=drive_web

6 How to Partition a USB _ HDD drive in Windows 10 - Tutorial-_vxNBc66y4E_Tutorials4view https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vxNBc66y4E Tutorials4view ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/17WE...?usp=drive_web

6 How To Create A New Hard Drive Partition In Windows 10 [Quick Tutorial]-9Zvq3jHqUBA_MDTechVideo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQ-ohOdcZU MDTechVideos ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/18nM...?usp=drive_web

5 How to Partition Your Drive Before Installing Windows 10-dfuYXceAbbs_ToBe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfuYXceAbbs ToBe ( NO sound ( music ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aub...?usp=drive_web

4.5 How to Partition a Hard Drive for Windows 10 Quickly_-mPs9FPfz5ss_AOMEI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPs9FPfz5ss AOMEI ( NO sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Mqq...?usp=drive_web

2 Computer Help _ How to Partition a Laptop Hard Drive-6roErJe9Xyo_eHow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6roErJe9Xyo eHow ( sound ) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZyB...?usp=drive_web https://app.box.com/s/r3fsvlhk3ftkds4m6c1bmhqlcqh3uesd














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