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This post: Page 51, Post #501
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12776
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12776
( link to last post on page #50 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page50#post12775 )


#501 From about here is…. Clearing up some other minor issues, making up a few extra bits, along the way to and before doing my own complete rewrite from scratch

Examining Services
Following on, and in support of, this Forum Post: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=292266#p292266
In that Post we figured out how to get a text file 3 column list of the Service´s Name , DisplayName and StartType, using a single PowerShell script commandlet.
Get-Service|Select-Object name,displayname,starttype|Format-Table -AutoSize|Out-File -FilePath\ 'C:\Users\acer\Desktop\test.txt' -Width 1000

Here I want to automate that a bit, and get the result somewhere convenient, such as an excel spreadsheet.

I took a look at the text file produced, and based on that did a typical bit of coding to get all text column stuff into a convenient 3 “column” VBA array. It was all standard stuff.
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA?p=15357&viewfull=1#post15357 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA?p=15356#post15356

Then I got some info for doing that PowerShell commandLet in VBA from Daniel Pineault here https://www.devhut.net/vba-run-powershell-command/

Here is a final macro
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-(-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-)?p=16368&viewfull=1#post16368

Example, on a Windows 10 Pro ( Version 20h2 19042.1466 )
Share ‘PowerShell.xls’ https://app.box.com/s/t65uuhic69g64yo4se2xuwopo9ezefa6
Share ‘test.txt’ https://app.box.com/s/lhln63eqcsn8d8zi0gd4yhrn09b3r79c
Share ‘Polak Services.JPG’ https://app.box.com/s/1ydaab5e5518flphg05i36xrp9n34r2q https://i.postimg.cc/65Rdrbvm/Polak-Services.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/GHL8rQzF/Polak-Services.jpg (https://postimg.cc/GHL8rQzF)
https://i.postimg.cc/65Rdrbvm/Polak-Services.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


Edit Some issues…
I messed up with a few things.
_ the display name could be long and go up to the startuptype in the text file, which messed up the manipulation of a line of data from the text file a bit. For now I fiddled that by adding some spaces before the words used for the startuptype. A better solution will probably wait until I fully understand the PowerShell code line
_ There seems to be some strange effects with something somewhere working too slow, too fast or not giving accurate information about if a text file is present. For now that is fiddled with some Waits , Dirs and a Kill. That will do for now, but that need to be looked at again when I understand better wots going on

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Post #502 URL link
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12777
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12777


#501b
Power Shell Services list via Power Shell COM Object

I have been watching a series of videos from Ashish Raj, and here he does something similar with Services in PowerShell via COM Object Excel.Application
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8A7Z0JLB0&t=995s

His example is not exactly like my requirement, so I make some notes here of an attempt for a direct comparison.

To refresh what I did before, from Excel
I came up with a single PowerShell script code line to give me all the info I wanted in a text string, that is to say a text file. https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=292453#p292453
I did some initial work to check out the exact format of the final text file, which turned out to be a good idea, as there were some “invisible” characters that were best off got rid of.
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA?p=15357&viewfull=1#post15357
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA/page3#post15357
, and here is a final Excel VBA solution that I ended up with
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-(-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-)?p=163689viewfull=1#post163689
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-(-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-)/page52#post16369
Summary of that final macro
There are a few fiddles to do with Waits and related coding in the macro. I don’t yet understand the problems there, so for now, no further comments on those. I concentrate on the main thing the macro is doing. Briefly: It:-
_ Does the PowerShell CmdLet to make a text file with all the info in it
_ Brings the text file into the Excel VBA coding
_ manipulates and pastes the data out in three columns

The final macro in more detail:-
The macro itself performs the PowerShell command
__ Get-Service|Select-Object name,displayname,starttype|Format-Table -AutoSize|Out-File -FilePath 'C:\Users\acer\Desktop\test.txt' -Width 1000
The macro then brings ( imports ) that text file into VBA as a single string stream, and manipulates the string in standard ways , to organise it into a 2 dimensional VBA array convenient to paste into a worksheet such that it comes out in 3 simple columns of info, as shown in the last post above
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12776

_.________
Script similar to Ashish Raj’s
I am interested in the headings of name,displayname,starttype
Ashish had display name and status. He also collared a cell green or red to indicate running status or stopped status.
I will use my headings, but do a similar colouring.
This is the basic simple coding. ( Note the strange requirement to have an extra () in some places )
Share ‘AshishRajFeedbackCOMObjectExcel.ps1
’https://app.box.com/s/mnvyiln2xqs7elizhjassl1m74trmuve
Share ‘AshishRajFeedbackCOMObjectExcelAlanPreferredFor mat.ps1’
https://app.box.com/s/gjve7vriwgp4vu3q0l0vec0cvobccx9e

Remove-Variable * -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue # This is very helpful when developing and debuging skript in the ISE, because the ISE has a habit of maintaining variables values between script executions, so this is needed, or else a removed variable may still be there - when fucking about with variables, this can get you in a very frustrating mess. In technical terms: By default variables are persistant. https://pscustomobject.github.io/powershell/howto/PowerShell-ISE-Clear-Variables/ https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=33011&sid=726de7ffbd0c03680b62280fd86753e0
# Path I have used for my text file output 'C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\test.txt' here full line Get-Service|Select-Object name,displayname,starttype|Format-Table -AutoSize|Out-File -FilePath 'C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\test.txt' -Width 2000
# and for Excel example file C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\PowerShellAshishRajFeedback .xls
try # Most of the main coding is in a try section ================================================== ============================
{[object]$excel = New-Object -ComObject Excel.Application # https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8A7Z0JLB0&t=995s
$excel.Visible = $true
[string]$excelPath = "C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\PowerShellAshishRajFeedback .xls"
$excelWB = $excel.workbooks.Open($excelPath)
# Worksheets info
$excelWS=$excelWB.WorkSheets.item("AshishRajCOM")
$excelWS.Activate() # It seems that in PowerShell script an extra () is needed
$excelWS.Cells.Item(1, 1).Value = "name" ; $excelWS.Cells.Item(1, 2).Value = "displayname" ; $excelWS.Cells.Item(1, 3).Value = "starttype"
# write in service
[int]$rowWS = 2
ForEach($Service in Get-Service) { $excelWS.Cells.Item($rowWS, 1).Value = $Service.Name.ToString() ; $excelWS.Cells.Item($rowWS, 2).Value = $Service.DisplayName.ToString() ; $excelWS.Cells.Item($rowWS, 3).Value = $Service.StartType.ToString()
If($Service.Status -eq "Running") { $excelWS.Cells.Item($rowWS, 1).Range(”A1:C1").Font.ColorIndex = 10 }
elseif($Service.Status -eq "Stopped") { $excelWS.Cells.Item($rowWS, 1).Range("A1:C1").Font.ColorIndex = 3 }
$rowWS++ }
$excelWS.Cells.Columns("A:C").EntireColumn.AutoFit() # Tidy up column widths
# $excelWB.SaveAs($excelPath)
$excelWB.Save() # It seems that in PowerShell script an extra () is needed
$excel.Quit() } # ================================================== ================================================== =========
catch { Write-Host "some error occurred" }
finally { $excel.Quit() } # this section will be done if an error occurs




https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA)

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#502a
Power Shell 7

Hans and Joe have put me on to this open source non Windows thing. (I think its still from Microsoft, and also its somehow involved with GitHub… https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=292238#p292238 https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=292008#p292008 https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=292018#p292018
There are a lot of useful links they gave which I will need to look through thoroughly when I have the time
Getting it, downloading, up and running etc. Intro.
Its fairly new, (at least compared with my most old stuff!) . Maybe for that reason the internet stuff on it is spares and some of seems a bit contradicting, in particular how and where it is downloaded. So I started playing around…

Download
There seems to be a lot of stuff, sometime contradictory about this.
For no particular reason I started doing it from a new button on me current in development Debloat ]/ Tool / Utility [/size]GUI thing. That is taking things perhaps a few step further than I might normally, but I am ( was) not sure where it goes, and I was a bit worried of only having one chance, that is to say not being able to get rid of it cleanly to start again, so I tried to hit a compromise a bit nearer to my current end goal, ince I want it possibly as an install option on the Debloat / Tool / Utility thing.
I put on a button, taking the syntax from a combination of internet searching and what was on some existing buttons

$PS.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Installing PowerShell 7"
$ResultText.text = "`r`n" +"`r`n" + "Installing PowerShell 7... Please Wait"
winget install --id Microsoft.PowerShell --source winget| Out-Host
if($?) { Write-Host "Installed PowerShell 7" }
$ResultText.text = "`r`n" + "Finished Installing PowerShell 7" + "`r`n" + "`r`n" + "Ready for Next Task"
})

I clicked and it seemed that the first attempt hanged, ( that was evening 9 Feb )
https://i.postimg.cc/5ys1x1tj/Power-Shell-instal-1-8.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/T1dfMhfZ/Power-Shell-instal-2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/FRgNB05y/Power-Shell-instal-hung.jpg

I had to restart the computer, ( or stop the ISE through task-Manager ) to clear the hanged situation in the ISE and the GUI

Next Day:
On the second attempt at clicking the button ( morning 10 Feb ) it seemed to get a lot further
https://i.postimg.cc/J4SvjtSM/Power-Shell-instal-5.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/6QXP1g9P/Power-Shell-instal-6.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/q7xFfwqv/Power-Shell-instal-7.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/6pRSctNR/Power-Shell-instal-9.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/yYD2J0QL/Power-Shell-instal-hung-second-time-actually-finished.jpg

When I finally found where some of the stuff was, it seemed to suggest it was put there on the 9 Feb.
https://i.postimg.cc/9FjRNY6k/seemed-to-be-there-from-yesterday.jpg
( Note also that WindowsPowerShell is also there, (and that is possibly related to what I find at a place that some internet research suggested I should find not the existing 5.1 and the new 7.2. In fact I only see after the install the existing 5.1 https://i.postimg.cc/52rfDxHt/Windows-Power-Shell-Folder-before-7-2-install.jpg Note also that nothing related to 5.1 ( WindowsPowerShell) seems to be in the normal program list )

As I found where it was, and it appeared as a normal installed program,
https://i.postimg.cc/TYjN5Qjq/de-install-1-2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/kXPh5LSg/de-install-3.jpg
, I de installed it just for fun, so as to be able to install it again

Second attempt at instal:
I hit the button again and it seemed to install
https://i.postimg.cc/k5q4KLMc/Install-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/9QG04c20/Install-2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/13x45fLb/Install-3.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/sDGvrp0p/Install-4.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/JnhzdJkH/Install-5.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/8k0j9ywp/Install-6.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/1zr8ds72/Install-7.jpg
Once again it seemed to hang, , but this time I looked at this stage at the place it was in, and it would appear to be there. https://i.postimg.cc/Fz8zSR1d/Seemed-too-hang-again-but-its-there.jpg


So I made a copy of the 7 Folder, https://i.postimg.cc/cH1vy2VH/Kopie-7.jpg , then used task manager to stop the hanged stuff, https://i.postimg.cc/nh7jvv4H/Right-click-on-bottom-ribbon-Task-Manager.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/j58Lsvbh/Task-Manager-to-stop-hung-ISE-process.jpg , then re started the script and re clicked the button.
On this second, second attempt the download went as before, but did not hang.
So this was the same as by the first second attempt.
A quick look suggests that nothing has changed, https://i.postimg.cc/L6GgYyZC/Kopie-7-and-7-after-second-second-attempt.jpg , and so an initial conclusion is that the first attempts, that is to say the first clicks which appeared to end in a hang, did actually in fact produce a successful download




#502b
Checking a few things now I have PowerShell 7
#502b issue with service "dmwappushservice"
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=292235#p292235
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=292005#p292005
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page50#post12768

If we take a look now, using PowerShell 7.2 to do this, on a non tweaked machine ( Win 10 20H2 (Build 19042.1466) ) ,
Get-Service|Select-Object name,displayname, starttype |Format-Table -AutoSize|Out-File -FilePath 'C:\Users\acer\Desktop\teststarttype.txt' -Width 1000
Get-Service|Select-Object name,displayname,startuptype|Format-Table -AutoSize|Out-File -FilePath 'C:\Users\acer\Desktop\teststartuptype.txt' -Width 1000
, then we can see that, for example by "dmwappushservice" , then now we can also get the option of Automatic (Delayed Start)
https://i.postimg.cc/VLHKgShb/Got-Automatic-Delayed-Start.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/HkqBGqdY/Got-Automatic-Delayed-Start.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/qzycM74k/Got-Automatic-Delayed-Start.jpg (https://postimg.cc/qzycM74k)https://i.postimg.cc/TKcrgHKF/Got-Automatic-Delayed-Start.jpg (https://postimg.cc/TKcrgHKF)

Share ‘teststarttype.txt’ https://app.box.com/s/u4xxiefbgh2b13e3vn10ho2l497lbzn5
Share ‘teststartuptype.txt’ https://app.box.com/s/q7lxmr1ffz9slf24cpgk7c1db3mourd4



Set-Service "dmwappushservice"
On the same computer I confirmed that I can set the option of Automatic (Delayed Start) provided I use something like this in PS7
Set-Service "dmwappushservice" –StartupType AutomaticDelayedStart
https://i.postimg.cc/BQDjYkYc/Set-Service-dmwappushservice-Automatic-Verzoegerter-Start.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/BnBXsDGj/Set-Service-dmwappushservice-Manual.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/WhNptWPh/Set-Service-dmwappushservice-Automatic-Verzoegerter-Start.jpg (https://postimg.cc/WhNptWPh)https://i.postimg.cc/FY19VYzv/Set-Service-dmwappushservice-Manual.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FY19VYzv)



But note that I will need to open as Administrator , https://i.postimg.cc/vm8DmBQ3/Right-Click-PS7-Admin.jpg
, or else it will error, https://i.postimg.cc/13QfLBbx/Oops-PS-7-not-as-Admin.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/NKVQJQ2H/Right-Click-PS7-Admin.jpg (https://postimg.cc/NKVQJQ2H)https://i.postimg.cc/Lnx9PtHv/Oops-PS-7-not-as-Admin.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Lnx9PtHv)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITI1HaFeq_g&lc=UgwvLFdMEAba5rLHIz94AaABAg.9iGReNGzP4v9iHoeaCpT G8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITI1HaFeq_g&lc=UgwvLFdMEAba5rLHIz94AaABAg.9iGReNGzP4v9iHoeaCpT G8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITI1HaFeq_g&lc=Ugy_1xkcndYdzUapw-J4AaABAg.9iGOq_leF_E9iHpsWCdJ5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITI1HaFeq_g&lc=Ugy_1xkcndYdzUapw-J4AaABAg.9iGOq_leF_E9iHpsWCdJ5I)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA)

[DocAElstein]

This is post #505
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12780
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12780


At last old scripts!! !
This is a year or so out of place, here, in my own personal notes. But no one anywhere answered my pleas for help in getting copies of the older scripts, which I had wanted to get so as to…
_ aid me getting back up to date ,
, and to,
_ aid me in my learning of this Debloat stuff as well as the related learning of PowerShell script

Specifically, I want to get scripts, where each script relates to the script at the time of, and relevant to, each of Chris’s Debloat related YouTube Videos

I came across a related issue by coincidence here, https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/issues/229
, where then brandonkal showed me how to do it https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/issues/229#issuecomment-1042610457
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/issues/229#issuecomment-1042788256
( Edit. I solved this issue and quite a few others in a lot of posts at GitHub around February March, but my account was deleted and all posts removed. No big deal, I was never so keen on the place, it seems to slow down and mess up projects, at least any I helped in. Maybe that did not go down too well. Possibly the real reason of GitHub is to mess some peoples projects up? )
Solution to get old scripts
Here we go, just to remind me for future reference:
This solution seems very tolerant of even older Browsers and operating systems and there is no need to be logged in or have an account at GitHub.
It’s not at all obvious, as with most things at GitHub, but once you do know, it’s a piece of piss, no problem at all and quick:
Working example, for example Chris’s win10debloat stuff scripts..
_1) Go to Chris’s GitHub Windows 10 Debloat page, https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script . By default you should be at the Code page, but to be sure hit the code button top left https://i.postimg.cc/fbRJrHN8/Code-Button-Top-Left-at-Chris-Win10-Git-Hub.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/P5hLmXFs/Code-Button-Top-Left-at-Chris-Win10-Git-Hub.jpg
_ 2) Hit the History Clock icon https://i.postimg.cc/HxjdQRgC/History-Clock-icon-at-Chris-Win10-Git-Hub.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/qRY0QwJ6/History-Clock-icon-at-Chris-Win10-Git-Hub.jpg
What you should now see is a page with a track / progress like vertical line along the left margin with junction points on it. Going down is like going back in the History https://i.postimg.cc/NfR999Dk/History-recorded-going-down-the-left-margin-at-Git-Hub.jpg
_2b) Furthermore, towards the bottom is an older button,
https://i.postimg.cc/Y2Gm7ymV/Older-botton-takes-you-to-next-page-going-backwards-in-time.jpg
, which takes you to the next page allowing you to go even further back in time.
As far as I can tell, you can go right back to the beginning.
_3) Where what when to look for
Under the various dated junction points are things listed as “commits”. I don’t fully understand yet all the workings and what things that are being referred to, but I think I am only interested in changes to the main script, which are those referred to by something like Update win10debloat.ps1 https://i.postimg.cc/s1CzC2ZV/Click-on-Update-win10debloat-ps1.jpg
A clue to what was done at that time to the script may be obtained by other things around the same date, and/ or you may get a hint from clicking on that word, Update win10debloat.ps1 , https://i.postimg.cc/FzKjjjr6/Click-on-Update-win10debloat-ps1.jpg , which then will give some indication in a red / green before after type pictorial view
https://i.postimg.cc/13H8BkLg/Click-on-Update-win10debloat-ps1-gives-red-green-before-after-type-view.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/SnnQNvQq/Click-on-Update-win10debloat-ps1-gives-red-green-before-after-type-view.jpg (https://postimg.cc/SnnQNvQq)
As example, that last screen shot is looking around the February 15 2022 time. Clearly there is something going on with “Virtualisation” things
Relating a script to a Chris YouTube Debloat Video
Chris does not typically give a direct reference to the script relevant to his Debloat related Videos. But it’s a fairly good guess that an Update around the time of a video, possibly shortly before, will be the one.
Taking that last example, the from Feb 15, 2022, : If we look at Chris’s videos from about that time we find a couple of videos related to the theme of “Virtualisation” things:
9.31a Live - Improving Virtualization in Windows-fYhBE4B77S8_18 02 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYhBE4B77S8
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19SHZiyHHtALTdSXCuJbtrYycVgty9fGl/view?usp=drive_web
9.31b How to Setup Hyper V on Windows-FCIA4YQHx9U_19 02 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCIA4YQHx9U
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gfo7imbWNTGUnBd5zkzmUcu3FBecEQnV/view?usp=drive_web
We can conclude fairly safely here that this script change mainly involved adding a button to enable some in built Windows “Virtual-V” feature. ( The script changes will be the changes I talked about in the second half of this post of mine,
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page50#post12774
, which took my script, (which is approximately following Chris’s script), from my version Temp4.ps1 to Temp5.ps1 )

It is not always obvious that a video gives some indication of, or is related to a change.
Sometimes the change may not be related specifically to some new addition referred to in a video.
We might be able to relate it to something else, for examples…
_ We might sometimes be able to refer it to some issue if you take a look down the list ( https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/issues https://i.postimg.cc/kGhWwBDg/Chris-Win10-Git-Hub-Issues.jpg )
_ Chris may refer to it either in passing or as it may be slightly related to a video. For example, the things that took my script from my version Temp5.ps1 to Temp6.ps1 ( https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page50#post12775 ) where some power related things which he mentioned briefly in these videos:
9.32 Live - Optimizing Windows for Gaming-z3DNobuvkL8_11 03 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3DNobuvkL8
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WcT...?usp=drive_web
Optimize Windows for Gaming-KjHfCDPfLdI_12 03 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHfCDPfLdI
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O7h...?usp=drive_web
( See also some of my notes in this excelfox Thread post https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page43#post12702 )

Get the actual script code
So at this point we have identified the win10debloat.ps1 that we are interested in. Now to get the actual code….
Its generally regarded as best taking what is referred to as the Raw code. I think this is intended to be a very clean text, rather than one that my have some things like “invisible” characters or something to do with formatting that might get accidentally copied in any simple copying attempt
Get the Raw
_(i) If we are looking at the Red green before after…
First look for a View File option, https://i.postimg.cc/3JqkwF7b/View-File-option-from-red-green-before-after.jpg . Click that, and you see a color formatted code. Look for the Raw option and click that, https://i.postimg.cc/15XgPjxq/Raw-option.jpg
This should get the raw code view, https://i.postimg.cc/RhsNKcth/Raw-code.jpg
_(ii) If we are looking at the History page.
Look for a _ < >_ button at the right, https://i.postimg.cc/9QqrwwQX/Pointy-bracket-code-button.jpg and click that.
This should take us to what looks like the main code page where we started with.
https://i.postimg.cc/gjWrQQn6/Achaived-copy-of-what-main-code-page-was-previously.jpg
But actually it is something close to an archived copy of the main page at the previous chosen commit date. That page can be used in the same way you would use the current main page.
So for example,
_ click on the win10debloat.ps1 , https://i.postimg.cc/4d1KNCNz/Click-on-win10debloat-ps1.jpg
_ we can now click on the Raw option, https://i.postimg.cc/VsDSxchw/Raw-option.jpg , and once again we see the Raw code, https://i.postimg.cc/W4LtGpdG/Raw-code.jpg

Copy Raw _ Ctrl+a , Ctrl+c
The simplest way to copy the raw code is to click anywhere in it , then use the key combination of Ctrl+a , which should select/ highlight the entire code, followed by Ctrl+c
That should give you a clean text copy in the clipboard.


So that’s it. Do now with that code what you want, such as
_ paste it in a text editor such as Notepad or Notepad++ if , as me, you just want to look at it,
or
_ probably the most useful, paste it in an as Administrator launched ISE development window, and then you can do all - look at it, edit it, and run it conveniently as and when you choose

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The quick link
One last thing, just for completeness, but which I am not so keen on using, persinally.
Brandonkal also showed me how to get the quick link to run the script. But very important to note here is what brandonkal went on to say about …….. check the code for unversioned dependency links….. - He is warning of bad programming practice. For example, the code downloads "raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/master/ooshutup10.cfg" which always points to the latest version. If you wish to have that file match what it was in an earlier version, you will have to update that reference in a fork.

The short link, or “one liner”, I am talking about is that often given by Chris at his site and in videos ,
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://git.io/JJ8R4'))
, which he often describes as something like, the “one commend to run ‘em all”. That is basically a single code line to paste in PowerShell that somehow goes off via the internet and gets the script and does anything else necessary to get the script up an running for you somehow and run it live somehow on your computer. I am less keen on using that as it has the disadvantage that you don’t actually get the script to look at and edit. But it can be a convenient way to run the coding.
Chris always gives the line for the current version, ( which can upset some people, example, https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/issues/229#issuecomment-1043477046 ) , but we can actually get the same one liner for the older script that we are interested in.

Example:
Take once again the example of, February 15, 2022 , and look at some numbers and URLs that have been seen in the screenshots
_ Example: The Raw URL: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/c349966ed313d5d7979aeb58e2c3a7ae3f494c6f/win10debloat.ps1 https://i.postimg.cc/DzLJHJ9p/Raw-URL.jpg
_ Example: A commit number that may have shown up in a few places, fc37c7d

We may replace the download string in Chris’s one liner, with a either of these based on those numbers

iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/c349966ed313d5d7979aeb58e2c3a7ae3f494c6f/win10debloat.ps1'))
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/fc37c7d/win10debloat.ps1'))

( I am not too sure yet of the validity always of the last one, so perhaps best to use the first).

Here just again for final clarity, first the typical one liner used currently to get the new GUI up and running,
and after the second one is for the script from 15 Feb 2022
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://git.io/JJ8R4'))
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/c349966ed313d5d7979aeb58e2c3a7ae3f494c6f/win10debloat.ps1'))

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So that’s it all. :)




In the next post I apply this knowledge to get specific Chris scripts, concentrating mostly on those most asked for, which usually are those talked about on his normal size videos specifically on the script and script updates.
I may also take the opportunity for some extra notes a second time around, as well as look at some script versions that introduced things ( problems more often, lol, ) but which were not particularly discussed in any video.

[DocAElstein]

In this and the next posts, is the list from what appears to be the relevant script from the shown video. Each section refers to a Debloat video from Chris.
I have a few extra notes a second time around, mostly specific to the script.
Further general notes to the videos, that I did before I had the scripts, start from about here: https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page42
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page42
For anyone coming here to just get the script, you can see them in the code window in each video section. Typically I give the share link to the .ps1 file in the first line and in the second line is the single PowerShell command to start the thing off.
This is the share link to the ps1 file, which , for example you could paste in the ISE window and run it from there.
This second line is that one command to run thing that you paste in PowerShell

I checked that the thing initially seems to work, that is to say the .ps1 file runs in the ISE window, ( or in some case in the PowerShell Window !!!), and the single PowerShell command seems to start the thing off.
But because I am only interested in looking at the coding, I have not tested thoroughly. I expect its very likely that some things from the older scripts may not work anymore, since various things in Microsoft Windows may have changed.


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10.10.2018 Debloat Windows 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4ziE5Am0pM
Share ‘5.02 Debloat Windows 10-q4ziE5Am0pM_10 10 2018.wmv’ https://app.box.com/s/5vkm9g797jgc4sttmvpbl2yu5pj8me60
Chris just missed the first GUI version from Richard with this video.

Richard has a very thorough READMe, worth a look sometimes. Nice general intro on how to run……..…Download the Windows10Debloater.ps1 file. Next, open PowerShell ISE/VSCode as an Administrator, copy the source code from Windows10Debloater.ps1 and throw it into PowerShell ISE/VSCode/etc and run it.

Here is the actual main code page from 10 10 2018 https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater/tree/88d4d1ed7b6d26b184bd5b71cbeb3805fc11935f
Maybe his “prep” coding needs a further look, looks like some refinement I and Chris may have skipped over.
This was the first Chris explanation of the fundamental running in PowerShell window..
Set-ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted
cd 'D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\win10script-master'
dir ( using dir is not necessary, but is helpful to check that you are where your file is, since dir will cause it and anything else there to be listed )
.\win10debloat.ps1


Share ‘Richard10102018.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/luzvsf3vrhc5d3schxpmmg9yxvlv7ahk
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater/88d4d1ed7b6d26b184bd5b71cbeb3805fc11935f/Windows10Debloater.ps1'))


06.04.2019 Setting up the perfect Windows 10 Installation | faster, Lighter, and Functional
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVy4GAtkh7Q
Share ‘5.26 Setting up the perfect Windows 10 Installation _ Faster, Lighter, and Functional-nVy4GAtkh7Q_06 04 2019.wmv’ https://app.box.com/s/ftp5hc3j9w4on6yfm7md25cgsjhgweyn
The script is 1 of 5-6 things talked about.
I will take a guess that Chris may have been using the version from about a month from his video, based on this screenshot from the vid, https://i.postimg.cc/zvF3r7g2/Chris-Richatds-from-video-06-04-2019.jpg . That is at about minute 2 , 50 seconds
Here is the actual main code page from March 6 2019 https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater/tree/f269dbbee37afc2398cc0780e9b86ba24e9bef74
Once again Richard is doing a nice README, here is just a short extract, of one of 3 run methods that he explains
First Method:

Download the .zip file on the main page of the github and extract the .zip file to your desired location
Once extracted, open PowerShell (or PowerShell ISE) as an Administrator
Enable PowerShell execution Set-ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted
Ubnlock all powershell script ls -Recurse *.ps1 | Unblock-File
On the propmt, change to the directory where you extracted the files: e.g. - cd c:\temp
Next, to run either script, enter in the following: e.g. - .\Windows10DebloaterGUI.ps1

I expect he is suggesting we can run either .\Windows10DebloaterGUI.ps1 or .\Windows10Debloater.ps1
It’s an interesting point to note in passing that Richard had the GUI here. Chris may have overlooked it as in the next of his Debloat Videos he seems to imply Richard has just introduced the GUI.
So just out of interest I will include the GUI also here, even though it was not discussed in the Chris video
Non GUI version

Share ‘Richard6March2019.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/6hxsf7846nqds9gz4q65s3jdr489yjxx
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater/f269dbbee37afc2398cc0780e9b86ba24e9bef74/Windows10Debloater.ps1'))

GUI Version

Share ‘Richard6March2019GUI.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/9jb475u0zfxub44hw0sd7212kft6moi7
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater/f269dbbee37afc2398cc0780e9b86ba24e9bef74/Windows10DebloaterGUI.ps1'))
Here is a pick of how the GUI comes up by the one command to do it all: https://i.postimg.cc/k5DJxpmm/Richards-First-GUI.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/t4BRnH8k/Richards-First-GUI-on-1366x768.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/4YhRjjfH/Richards-First-GUI-on-1366x768.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4YhRjjfH)
The GUI is resizable, no scroll bars.
Note that if you run it from in the ISE, the code gets printed in the PowerShell window, https://i.postimg.cc/SsgK0YpW/First-Richard-GUI-run-in-ISE-script-comes-up-in-Power-Shell.jpg
Misc Notes:
$InstallNet35.Add_Click( {

Write-Host "Initializing the installation of .NET 3.5..."
DISM /Online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:NetFx3 /All
Write-Host ".NET 3.5 has been successfully installed!"
} )


( .NET https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=37006&p=286686#p286686 )

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16.10.2019 Clean Up Windows 10 _ 3 Steps For A Faster computer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVy4GAtkh7Q
Share ‘https www christitus com clean-up-windows-10 16 10 2019.docx’ https://app.box.com/s/q859xwlu6c358s3e3jrmn04zmhgpsovl
This is Chris’s first use of a GUI by Chris, but its not his, it’s Richard’s
I suspect that possibly when Chris did this video he may have forgot the last one. This will be his third Debloat video. He seems to refer to his first video in this video, and he seems to refer to the GUI as a recent development by Richard, so he may have forgot his second Debloat video, where Richard did actually have the GUI, but in that second video discussed in my last section, it looks liker Chris missed that. In the second video he looks at the non GUI script.
https://i.postimg.cc/K8G8gxWX/Chris-...-2019-STEP.jpg "Originally did crap a year ago on LapTop – talking about his first Video , Debloat Windows 10
_ Step 1 of 3 is Richard Newton script but Richard made it user friendly by … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWHiP9K8fQ0&t=215s Minute 3 , 35 seconds
_a) launch GUI graphic debloat section
and
b) a single line: ***, that will run it across the web – you don’t need to download the win10script-master stuff, ( but you can if you like, for example so as to modify the script before running). …
*** iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://git.io/debloat'))
Richard calls it … Quick download link , which is a bit misleading
Actually Chris missed the fact that Richard had already got his GUI script in Chris’s video, 06 04 2019 Setting up the perfect Windows 10 Installation | faster, Lighter, and Functional

As Chris is using the one liner PowerShell command It’s a good guess that the script used will be that from sometime between shortly before to up until the upload date, and certainly not after. I took the one from 13 October 2019

Share ‘Richard13Oct2019GUI.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/1eodub2b5le8hehgp0jwh8ovdqtrupew
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater/d6387e7275ab2a78ba89dcc69330c5d84083a649/Windows10DebloaterGUI.ps1'))
GUI is resizable, no scroll bars, as with the previous one, ( but this time no code is pasted out in PowerShell window ) https://i.postimg.cc/cJ7GW3Yv/Richards-13-Oct2019-GUI-on-1366x768.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/06NBdbVv/Richards-13-Oct2019-GUI-on-1366x768.jpg (https://postimg.cc/06NBdbVv)

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20.06.2020 How to speed up Windows 10 in 2020
Speed up Windows 10 in 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E6OT_QcHaU
8.45 Speed Up Windows 10 in 2020-8E6OT_QcHaU_20 06 2020 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b_a...?usp=drive_web
Chris is mostly talking about 2 scripts, Richards once again and another, farag2, he says Richard’s is a bit out of date, and farag2 keeps it better up to date, for from May 2020 , Chris is on 2004.
Richard Newton script
Chris says Richards at the time would be OK for version 1903 to 1909
From the video, it looks like the Richard script he uses is that from 2 months before the video, so I have the one from 20 April 2020

Share ‘Richard20April2020GUI.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/p61qsbczl7gjj1pqv1ki75laa7spt3zq
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater/c573efd240add6cd108b667a8d7f5749ea25d52e/Windows10DebloaterGUI.ps1'))
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Farag2 (
For the first time use by Chris of the farag2 script, it appears he took a script from 17th June which Chris describes as that from a couple of days ago, and he selected the Win 10 2004.4.5 zip
https://i.postimg.cc/BbxxdbrB/farag2-Win-10-2004-4-5-zip.jpg
( It’s a ridiculous number of pages to go back through !! )
I am not sure if I have the correct one here,
https://i.postimg.cc/4yC6LVS3/farag2-19-June-2020.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/MZRbc3nf/farag2-19-June-2020.jpg
, as I don’t quite understand the different formats
( At minute 8 25 seconds Chris takes a quick look in the ISE at the file https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E6OT_QcHaU&t=505s )


Share ‘farag2 19June 2020.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/l2oixig8ynqyl7nwcwa10xeahofjrj16
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/farag2/Sophia-Script-for-Windows/4b5c37cad6d61e13c6b1fd3bc033668b6eb6bb2f/Win%2010%202004.ps1'))
Note !!! The code would not run in the ISE, https://i.postimg.cc/vBx7t3Xj/farag2-could-not-run-in-ISE.jpg . Also the one line command would not run from the PowerShell window attached to the ISE
But the one line command did run from the one line command in a normal PowerShell window, ( opened as Administrator ) .

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Continued in next post

[DocAElstein]

Continued from last post
From this point, Chris has begun developing his own stuff a lot more
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28.07.2020 The Fastest Windows 10 Setup ( used on Version 2004 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfd7BXCo9Xk
Share ‘8.50 The Fastest Windows 10 Setup-Tfd7BXCo9Xk_28 07 2020.wmv’ https://app.box.com/s/4na7yp2rphq6hwzb9w4ov3h6lz2zil5s

Chris first attempt at a script, and start of his GitHub stuff. His first uploads were 23July.
The last upload before a long gap was July 27, so I take that one

Share ‘ChrisFirstScript27July2020.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/atcfp24bua063oi2mui4cf9hs5yada39
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/dc055e1456c75d0011b285cecc88d173fbd2d100/win10debloat.ps1'))
It’s a very popular video so Chris probably leaves it up. But he does not seem to keep the notes up to date.
The default installing did not go down too well with most people.

I see now from the script, that it was actually mostly from this chap here
https://gist.github.com/alirobe/7f3b34ad89a159e6daa1
who in turn seems to have got it somehow from someone who left in dismay a couple of years back, and archived all his stuff to read only
https://github.com/Disassembler0/Win10-Initial-Setup-Script
Its a lot of single functions. I am not too clear at this stage how bloke 1 got it from the other chaps stuff. Chris mainly seems to have added the small bit to install a few things and do O&O
a few extra notes a second time around,
The script was part of the video, and came in a bit unpublicised as a script. He may have been a bit reckless, looking at the home game user, and deciding to force downloads of stuff of his choice.
It just runs, and no interaction.
He talks a lot about it being a single command , which is actually close to the title of the next Debloat video. Once again I get the impression he later forgot all about this video.
The script has a lot of enable parallel Enable functions as all the previous ones did the point being that you could tweak things, the start of his customisation idea.
He thinks the script reduces Processes by about 25-30
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There was a period when for a short time some other scripts were available as developed and discussed in a live stream,
14.08.2020 Creating New Windows 10 Debloat Scripts for you ( Live stream) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER27pGt5wH0
8.57 Creating New Windows 10 Debloat Scripts for You-ER27pGt5wH0_14 08 2020
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O63...?usp=drive_web
There may have been some bad publicity as some hard scripts were taken by people and used somewhat recklessly, and there seems to have been a bit of a break in development of his script stuff.
Some copies and shortened videos appeared sometime a bit erratically and out of sequence.
The live stream which I suspect may have had bad reviews due to the hard script he did, was re released under a new name some time later ( 8.83 Windows Debloat Scripts Live Stream Education-2R28u7o9mls _13 06 2021
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xyq...?usp=drive_web )

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24.10.2020 Speed up Windows10 with one commend ( using version 20H2 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO30OnTsJhk
Share ‘8.60 Speed up Windows 10 with One Command-dO30OnTsJhk_24 10 2020.wmv’ https://app.box.com/s/jkebz6xxoi7gy9wulwunvhwiyy6487hk
Chris:……This is different from my previous scripts, this does not remove any functionality… I will remake and update regularly This is version 1.0 ???………………
Still Not got the GUI yet

Chris seems to regard this as the start of his script work, he seems to strangely ignore/ forget the earlier ones. Perhaps things did not go as well as he hoped, but the videos previously get a lot of views so he leaves them. He seems to keep the notes under the video better up to date from now on than any previous ones.
He regards this as “version 1”, hence pretty well ignoring previous stuff.
I will take the script available on 29 October as I notice Chris sometimes makes a few mistakes and/ or makes small changes after suggestions, correction suggestions, shortly after an update video.

Share ‘ChrisSecond(Version1)Script29Oct2020.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/s7zwspwft02klem81c747wpoycarkjac
iex(New-Object Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/08799baf44141c154b6293f96cd979af45976c8e/win10debloat.ps1')
a few extra notes a second time around,
He is leaving functionality this time, which might be a polite way of saying, oops I fucked up a bit recklessly last time.
He adds a restore point at the start.
There is a bit of difference in the tweaking of if functions are done or not. I have not compared in great detail, but it would not surprised me if he got in a muddle and did not change as much as he thought.
Security things: Enable Defender, opposed to disable in the last one seems to be one change. This scrip also Enables Firewall, the last one did nothing to it.
Chris has introduced TitusRegistryTweaks function that appears to do the updates similar to what you could do manually
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( .NET https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=37006&p=286686#p286686 )
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07.11.2020 How to Restore Action Center and More
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO30OnTsJhk
How to Restore Action Center and More-H2ydDcqRZyM_07 11 2020.wmv https://app.box.com/s/5nib1qrfhm2kx75ll6vh0ue7bbgvxxwh
Chris next responded to comments to restore the small square action centre thing at the bottom right what the previous scripts removed. ( While he was at it he made further options to restore Cortana and to hide tray icons )
At the start he was very vocal about how he responds positively to comments, which further suggests he may be trying to gloss over the problems caused to people by his scripts

I will go here for the Commit named “Full GUI implementation” on 4 November as there is a break after for a week or two, at which it looks like he has been getting into GUIs big time.
We have a restore-ac-tray.ps1 ___ Full GUI implementation

Share ‘Chris4Vov2020restore-ac-tray.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/87vinr0nejgxn77x1flldx504vy29kaz
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/2f33ed830fa58f79057bfe3454083586a37f4e56/restore-ac-tray.ps1'))
( Note on running from the ISE, the code is printed out in the PowerShell window of the ISE )



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From here is the main start from Chris’s GUI work. At the time of writing this there are 3 main normal videos, although there were some live streams which discussed the scripts. I put the titles and some notes to them just to help orientation


04.12.2020 The Best Windows 10 Toolbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V27McA7ch6w
Share ‘8.65 The Best Windows 10 Toolbox -V27McA7ch6w_04 12 2020.wmv’ https://app.box.com/s/mex9xn9h4uibif596it2v2u9tfe44vr9
more square like Richards initially : - https://i.postimg.cc/9FBSv3Y1/Chris-Tool-Box-04-12-2020-First-DBollox-Win10.jpg - "The DB Tool Box first GUI but/ and is Dec 2020 update
install choc for download
December 2020 Update
There are a lot of “test new gui” at 2 December, 2020, and one last NewWin10 GUI released, so I take that

Share ‘Chris2December2020FirstGUI.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/2btpz9fefsc57eqagy5iz9janq7622zg
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/d797628cadc09070b0b585edb5e708ea11858345/win10debloat.ps1'))
The GUI is almost too big on 1366x768 https://i.postimg.cc/Y0jR251C/Chris-First-GUI-1366x768.jpg
Note the size of 1050, 700 in the script, and no other rogue bloat script lines, suggest Chris originally had it OK, then fucked it up as he went along https://i.postimg.cc/tTsnspmw/Chris-First-GUI-form-size-1050-700-and-no-crap-rogue-extra-bloat.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/053WW2pX/Chris-First-GUI-1366x768-no-size-bloat-fuck-up.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/053WW2pX/Chris-First-GUI-1366x768-no-size-bloat-fuck-up.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Y0jR251C/Chris-First-GUI-1366x768.jpg (https://postimg.cc/GTwGqS7W)
a few extra notes a second time around,
This is where things go from a function to a button click.
The Update has gone to a more complicated coding that lingers up to current one.
He thinks the script kills about 30-35 Processes
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09.04.2021 8.77 Quick Update and PowerShell Updates on Win 10 Scripts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lowutlqGaio
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gzV...?usp=drive_web
Took the Windows defender out due to anti virus software complaining about it.

26.04.2021 Windows 10 Toolbox Revamp
Live stream I can’t get at. :(

8.83 Windows Debloat Scripts Live Stream Education-2R28u7o9mls_13 06 2021
Strangely 8 months after the live stream this comes out a month before the next utility. This came out in Titus Tech Tips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R28u7o9mls https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xyq...?usp=drive_web

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPfzFT7Kq5A
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06.07.2021 The Best Windows Utility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPfzFT7Kq5A
Share ‘8.85 The Best Windows Utility-rPfzFT7Kq5A_06 07 2021.wmv’ https://app.box.com/s/vobd0u7ecq33j6kvdzqgcln6ewvv09zs
winget is here, Chris says its there, easier than going through installers like chocolatey??
I am not sure what’s going on here, with lots of things done on 6 and 7 July, so I will take the newest on 7 July
This is where some crap came into the GUI size. But I am not sure how https://i.postimg.cc/dtykZpbX/Crap-bloat-came-into-GUI-size.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/QMs0ypg8/Chris-Second-GUI-7-July-2021-1366x768.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/pLM0vGcD/Chris-Second-GUI-7-July-2021-1366x768-size-bloat-fuck-up.jpg (https://postimg.cc/9r1PtphM)

Share ‘Chris7July2021.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/2btpz9fefsc57eqagy5iz9janq7622zg
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/97d46a6bf3c8023dfe72b52bcabec59cc1a5c791/win10debloat.ps1'))
a few extra notes a second time around,
Based on User feedback Microsoft Store and Windows Defender is no longer touched.
VS Code is there to install, but he says it has telemetry, so you have VS Coduim as alternative
He does not like to disable Background Apps, so its an option is VS Codium
Media Player Classic is from a good up to date fork
He says he combined the searches. – we see later he didn’t
Something like “Un Hide Tray Icons” is included in the Essential Tweaks , but based on feedback he has a Hide Tray icons in Undo to “put back to stock settings”

I would like to do a digression to check what is going on in searches, due to , and with , the benefit now of having the actual coding used at the time – next post

[DocAElstein]

I would like to check what is going on in searches (The buttons for Cortana ( Search ) – only do Cortana )
04.12.2020 The Best Windows 10 Toolbox https://i.postimg.cc/GTwGqS7W/Chris-First-GUI-1366x768.jpg (https://postimg.cc/GTwGqS7W)https://i.postimg.cc/8jCrRfmB/Chris-First-GUI-Dec2020-Windows-Search.jpg (https://postimg.cc/8jCrRfmB)
Windows Search button under System Tweaks
All the windows search, web search through .. to disable indexer.

$windowssearch.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Disabling Bing Search in Start Menu..."
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Se arch" -Name "BingSearchEnabled" -Type DWord -Value 0
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Se arch" -Name "CortanaConsent" -Type DWord -Value 0
If (!(Test-Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search")) {
New-Item -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Name "DisableWebSearch" -Type DWord -Value 1
Write-Host "Stopping and disabling Windows Search indexing service..."
Stop-Service "WSearch" -WarningAction SilentlyContinue
Set-Service "WSearch" -StartupType Disabled
Write-Host "Hiding Taskbar Search icon / box..."
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Se arch" -Name "SearchboxTaskbarMode" -Type DWord -Value 0
$wshell.Popup("Operation Completed",0,"Done",0x0)
})

In the next video, Cortana is mentioned in connection with searching, so just for reference, this is behind the : Cortana button under System Tweaks

$cortana.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Disabling Cortana..."
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings" -Name "AcceptedPrivacyPolicy" -Type DWord -Value 0
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Name "RestrictImplicitTextCollection" -Type DWord -Value 1
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Name "RestrictImplicitInkCollection" -Type DWord -Value 1
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore" -Name "HarvestContacts" -Type DWord -Value 0
If (!(Test-Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search")) {
New-Item -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Name "AllowCortana" -Type DWord -Value 0
$wshell.Popup("Operation Completed",0,"Done",0x0)
})

06.07.2021 The Best Windows Utilityhttps://i.postimg.cc/21cQqLXM/Chris-Second-GUI-7-July-2021-1366x768.jpg (https://postimg.cc/21cQqLXM)
Chris says, Cortana and Windows search grouped together, as they are related and just doing one tends to mess up the other.
But take a look at those two buttons….
$Cortana is Disable Cortana (Search) button and $ECortana is Enable Cortana (Search) buttonhttps://i.postimg.cc/BXByP6C0/Chris-Second-GUI-7-July-Cortana-and-with-Search.jpg (https://postimg.cc/BXByP6C0)

$cortana.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Disabling Cortana..."
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings" -Name "AcceptedPrivacyPolicy" -Type DWord -Value 0
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Name "RestrictImplicitTextCollection" -Type DWord -Value 1
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Name "RestrictImplicitInkCollection" -Type DWord -Value 1
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore" -Name "HarvestContacts" -Type DWord -Value 0
If (!(Test-Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search")) {
New-Item -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Name "AllowCortana" -Type DWord -Value 0
Write-Host "Disabled Cortana"
})

$ECortana.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Enabling Cortana..."
Remove-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings" -Name "AcceptedPrivacyPolicy" -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Name "RestrictImplicitTextCollection" -Type DWord -Value 0
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Name "RestrictImplicitInkCollection" -Type DWord -Value 0
Remove-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore" -Name "HarvestContacts" -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
Remove-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Name "AllowCortana" -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
Write-Host "Restoring Windows Search..."
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Se arch" -Name "BingSearchEnabled" -Type DWord -Value "1"
Remove-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Se arch" -Name "CortanaConsent" -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
Remove-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Name "DisableWebSearch" -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
Write-Host "Restore and Starting Windows Search Service..."
Set-Service "WSearch" -StartupType Automatic
Start-Service "WSearch" -WarningAction SilentlyContinue
Write-Host "Restore Windows Search Icon..."
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Se arch" -Name "SearchboxTaskbarMode" -Type DWord -Value 1
Write-Host "Done - Reverted to Stock Settings"
})So it would appear that the windows search disable got forgotten about/ missed out, since the disable in this script is identical to the Cortana disable script from the previous
Some YouTube notes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPfzFT7Kq5A&lc=UgzpTz_T-f5nBUU9la94AaABAg Thursday 24 March, 2022
I just compared your script from this time with that from your first GUI discussed in video
The Best Windows 10 Toolbox
In the previous video you had two separate buttons for tweaks to disable
Windows search
and
Cortana
In this video you say you combined them, but..
…but in fact the script behind Disable Cortana (Search) in this video looks identical to the script behind Cortana button in the previous video.
At first glanced it looks like you forgot
This might explain why some time later a Pull request ( which you accepted, but incidentally also messed up ) was to add some script to disable some aspects of windows search
You seem to have messed up the windows search script in later videos as well, which I will now go and check again.
I love you Chris, learnt tons from you, but you continue to be like Einstein, a bit of a messy chaotic genius, Lol.





Just as quick comparisom chech. This is from a mid March 2022 script, and is the $Cortana coding called by a the button “Disable Cortana (Search)”
It suggests that nothing changed in the meantime

$cortana.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Disabling Cortana..."
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings" -Name "AcceptedPrivacyPolicy" -Type DWord -Value 0
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Name "RestrictImplicitTextCollection" -Type DWord -Value 1
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" -Name "RestrictImplicitInkCollection" -Type DWord -Value 1
If (!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore")) {
New-Item -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\Trai nedDataStore" -Name "HarvestContacts" -Type DWord -Value 0
If (!(Test-Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search")) {
New-Item -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Force | Out-Null
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" -Name "AllowCortana" -Type DWord -Value 0
Write-Host "Disabled Cortana"
$ResultText.text = "`r`n" +"`r`n" + "Disabled Cortana"
})



I will carry on the general progression in the next post, from about the point I left ( https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12782 ) around July 2021

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This is post https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#12784
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#12784



Further here I am looking from approx now ( the July 2021 time ), I will try to look carefully at what happened after this point
On 12 July a large $WindowsSearch.Add_Click( appeared , as did the corresponding button “Search Tweaks”, but the ps1 errors at that new .Add_Click
If I comment out that section the GUI looks like thishttps://i.postimg.cc/PLvHvRQZ/Broken-Search-Tweaks-12-July.jpg (https://postimg.cc/PLvHvRQZ)
Sure enough we see the same Guy responsible for the 12 July doing a correction on 18-19 July 2021, which included the missing curly bracket.
Here is the 19July ps1
Share ‘ChrisSearchTweaks18-19July.ps1 https://app.box.com/s/cbs7go8i2tdxw4wguthgxcviecaxjn6b
iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString(' https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/71609526b132f5cd7e3b9167779af60051a80912/win10debloat.ps1')) And here is the $WindowsSearch.Add_Click(
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-(-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-)?p=16473&viewfull=1#post16473
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-(-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-)?p=15748&viewfull=1#post15748
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-(-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-)/page51#post15748
The two Cortana script bits look to have not changed at this stage.
$WindowsSearch button gone, script still there
As far as I can tell the $WindowsSearch.Add_Click( scripting is still there and always wassince it was first introdunced mid July, 2021. However, the Button for $WindowsSearch, “Search Tweaks” seems to have vanished for no apparent reason on 4 August. There were two commits, and somehow the button vanished between the first and the second. Here is the two scripts running side by side:
https://i.postimg.cc/0NHht9k8/1st-and-2nd-Commit-4-August-Search-Tweak-button-vanishes.jpg
As you can see, the change which I expect was wanted is that the remove and reistall App bloat pair has moved down. The Search tweak button vanished, probably by mistake I expect.
https://i.postimg.cc/HLLf4rCZ/1st-and-2nd-Commit-4-August-Search-Tweak-button-vanishes.jpg
I will take a geuss that a copy and paste went wrong. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time, Lol!
Or, … I note also that Chris never discussed this new search tweaks button anywhere, so another explanation might be he wanted to remove it silently for some reason.


Some big changes were done around the 23 September which included the windows update fix, many of the things for the new look bigger GUI, including the bloating out into it being too big
Its close to just starting again, and a lot of that was discussed in the next normal size video, which at the time that I write this was the last normal size video specifically on the tool

The Ultimate Windows Utility Upgrade 29 09 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKM8ZScbic8
Share ‘9.00 The Ultimate Windows Utility Upgrade-dKM8ZScbic8_29 09 2021.wmv’ https://app.box.com/s/9io0pbsjqmmkzfzep8fjqu09jr6lpmtd
I started looking at scripts in detail at the time they were available from about November. Since the major change reflectes in this video from the end of September, the changes have been fairly well detailed either by Chris’s live stream videos or and my notes starting from the previous page about here: https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page50
https://i.postimg.cc/K8zWNtpH/Chris-Third-GUI28-July2021.jpg (https://postimg.cc/PPgKfvjW)
a few extra notes a second time around,
Chris seems keen to tell people to google debloat windows 10, to get his site at the top, and click there to get to his site.
winget installs differently..( just to compare https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-(-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-)?p=16508&viewfull=1#post16508
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/commit/f2774eac480a71e710f90763ea770ae56d3b6e85
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/commit/9c0cc78e2a15aed3d42fa1a0b3b236f3ecf290db
) It installs through Microsoft Store, ( does not install the store)
For full restore if something goes wrong with Essential tweaks , he says Undo first then system restore from the made restore point at start of essential tweaks
He thinks a “local time” thing still in use since introduced as a temporary fix in the y2k time, is a bad idea, for example it might mess things up by Dual booting
He is still not keen on disabling background apps
Enable Hibernation button is there as Essentials tweaks disables it, - Chris thinks its better just to just restart your computer once a week.



At the end of October a live stream added service tweaks and some old control panel type stuff
9.05 Live - Redesigning the Windows Toolbox 29 10 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srvz8-5qReo
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zC3...?usp=drive_web





The scripts and GUI from late September, are basically as in the above last screenshot form where I started looking at everything in detail, as it was happening or shortly after.

So that’s about it,
In the meantime I have just had my accounts at GitHub suspended.
As ever, almost no one is interested in comments at YouTube.

So it’s probably time to move on and do it all myself…


A few miscellaneous things and notes

A quick comparison of the GUIs. There a three main sorts
First GUI, 04.12.2020 The Best Windows 10 Toolbox was the simplest 4 code lines, no colour code line so its at default
Second GUI 06.07.2021 The Best Windows Utility came in all the crap that fucks it up later. But the color was a nice shade of grey, this code line does that
$Form.BackColor = [System.Drawing.ColorTranslator]::FromHtml("#b8b8b8") # Nice grey shade
The third and current GUI , from The Ultimate Windows Utility Upgrade 29 09 2021 is the one with over sized and fucked up sizing. There is a color code line but the color is close to default
$Form.BackColor = [System.Drawing.ColorTranslator]::FromHtml("#e9e9e9")
Here is all three together (on a 1920x1080 Screen Resolution )
https://i.postimg.cc/DJ5LTx10/The-Three-GUIs.jpg (https://postimg.cc/DJ5LTx10)

A way to fix that Admin warning: some settings are managed by your organization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO30OnTsJhk&lc=UgwVggo52KrITVca6Xl4AaABAg.9_2WphWQzou9_7-HEna_4J

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From April 2022
This is post
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page52
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page52#post12786
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page52#post12786


Its early April, 2022, and I am thinking about going outside for the summer to finish building my Bavarian castle. So I will tidy up my Debloat windows 10 script stuff, and forget about untill next winter

Review where am I.
In February/March 2022, I had to some repair work after strong storms, and watched a lot of videos learning PowerShell script.
Chris did some updates on his Debloat script, and I finally found out how to get scripts from the time to match older videos. So I did a few more posts in the last two pages,
_ Page 50, from https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page50#post12774 to get my script updated to Chris’s latest
_ Page 51, from https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12780 to go again through the main Debloat videos with the benefit of having the actual scripts to which the videos were referring

So I am was up to my version Temp6.ps1 , and my GUI looked something like this: https://i.postimg.cc/mtTPPYqM/Temp6-March2022.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mtTPPYqM)


_......So , moving on quickly, so I can switch the computer off until next winter

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Start with the GUI (size)
I will take a finger in the wind guess, or estimate, a guestimate, based on all in my head, to try and start with approximately of what the final GUI should be like.
An Idea might be to have it have things in it making it very wide, possible deep also, but to make effective use of the scroll bars, for example to “hide” things that should possibly not be used too recklessly, or things I am not so interested in currently.
I will need to make the actual given size smaller. – That is just how it seems to work – set a smaller size than needed to hold all panes and other things you put in it.

The height will be some average of all issues come across so far, something like, 600.
I will start with about '800, 600' ( width , height )

GUI better formatting, colours?
I think I may have been a bit mislead by some Blogs and YouTube videos into thinking that the simple PowerShell script GUI is boring. Not true. PowerShell, unlike the simpler Shell cmd black window stuff, is somehow linked into the same Object orientated program stuff that Visual Basic is.
I had an little initial fiddle with colours, and made a few other minor updates, and fiddles, taking my version to Temp7.ps1 , https://app.box.com/s/fttlmwny6y4s5ub1q66kvqbrw2ppxdwz
https://i.postimg.cc/5210fm8N/Temp7-March2022.jpg (https://postimg.cc/CzPYNkvW)jdklad (https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page52)

Resizable GUI window and Scroll bar.
A working scroll bar is no problem – one code line. A GUI is resizable as standard default.
Just one subtlety , as mentioned before: If you want a scroll bar to always be there, as I do, you need to place things outside the window size. The script will not error if you do that. The things outside your given window size will need to be got by scrolling. Hence the scroll bar is there from the start.
(If you had all things placed and dimensioned inside your main given GUI size window, then the scroll bars do mot apper at first. They will appear if needed, if you reduce the size ( by dragging right or bottom perimeters ) such that things no longer fit in.
A convenient way to achieve what I want is to simply dimension Panels larger than the given GUI window size ( Panels are crudely similar to like GUI Windows inside, and fixed in, the GUI )

So I have my Panels conveniently set to such a size such that they are like columns deeper than the set main GUI window size.
For forcing the wider width, simple long comments or extended headings will do, as that is something I like generally in coding. Or alternatively stuff I might be experimenting with and/ or not sure I want to keep it there finally


Results
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKy0hPKC/Scroll-across-to-find-stuff-that-I-am-less-intersted-in-for-now.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/sfL18Hzk/Scroll-down-to-find-red-stuff.jpg







The next posts I do things in the next 6 Months a bit ad hoc, a few random things, progressing slowly when I feel like it..

I might be a bit extravagant going up in version numbers. There might not be many changes from one version to the other, but text storage is very easy and cheap, and it’s a simple alternative to a GitHub version control catastrophe, in seeing where changes might have introduced problems!
( Thank god they banned me from GitHub, - I might otherwise of wasted my life trying to figure the place out. In the meantime Microsoft would have infiltrated it, if they haven’t already, and would be running the rest of my life, Lol ))










Temp6.ps1 – Black and White - https://app.box.com/s/sn8dsqt237zffgkmjaqnvn7ewvqjdou8
Temp8.ps1 - Colour - https://app.box.com/s/9b9li86s7dyysr7exdle30pckgp7vscz

[DocAElstein]

ISE v Microsoft Office VBA VB Editor
I am very comfortable with the ISE, after I finally noticed it.
After a bit of fiddling I find it almost as good as the VBA VB Editor.
They look similar, and they are similar to a large extent
https://i.postimg.cc/mzZczpQ1/ISE-v-VB-Editor.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mzZczpQ1)
Looking at that last screenshot, we could say to a first approximation, as a Layman explanation,…
The PowerShell Window attached at the bottom of the ISE is similar in its working to the Excel Spreadsheet from which that VB Editor on the right belongs to ( You get that VB Editor up, from an open Excel spreadsheet, if you hit Alt+F11 ):…
When you run the ISE script, stuff goes on from within that PowerShell window, even if that is less obvious ; When you run coding in the VB Editor, stuff typically goes on from in the Excel spreadsheet, which is often more obvious since the spreadsheet may be caused to change by the coding.
Its all a bit more complicated than that, but that is a good initial Layman explanation.

Subtle difference in debug step mode, ( running line by line) - workaround
In the VB Editor its very easy. Click anywhere in the coding that you want to step through, then hit F8 and then each hit of F8 takes you to the next line, starting from the top
( If you want to start a bit further down, select the line you want to start from, hit F9, and that should cause that line to be highlighted in brown. ( That is called a stop point, ( you can also get it in the VB editor by clicking in the left margin where you want the stop point ) )
Now first hit the play button or F5. That takes you as far as the brown line, ( the coding runs and stops at the brown line). Now proceed as before with F8 to step line by line further.
A simple trick allows you to do the same in the ISE.
The stop point works the same. Use it to set a stop point towards the start of the script, or from where you want to step through the script. So, for example, select the first script line and hit F9. The first line should now be highlighted in brown.
After that it’s the same as with VB Editor, except use the F11 in when in the ISE, (rather than F8 as when in the VB Editor)

( If at any point during the stepping through, you want to continue from where you are normally:- it’s the same for both ISE and VB Editor: Hit the play button or F5. The code or script should then run normally from the point at which it ways when you do that )



( The difference in hoe ISE and VB Editor behaves here, seems to be a result of the PowerShell script needing to at least start running, even if you have it stopped at the start. This might explain why you get much better real time warnings of syntax errors as you write coding in the VB Editor. I will take a gauss that VBA somehow constantly does a quick run secretly as far as you are, or maybe its some sort of real time compiling, which I guess has the same effect )

Note: The F9 is a toggle thing – so to remove a stop point, select that brown highlighted line, hit F9, and the stop point should be taken off, indicated by the brown highlighting vanishing.


Ref
https://www.improvescripting.com/how-to-debug-powershell-scripts/




Adding code to existing script

Adding code to existing script ( merging ) , ( in particular without changing line numbers or shifting existing code up or down )
( Example IP hosts block merge )
This requirement is mostly just because I want to keep up to date with Chris’s stuff. So I don’t want to unnecessarily to shift things around too much.
I have created space in which to add my new scripting, because I # commented out the script of Chris’s that I don’t use. But I would like to keep it there for future reference, and to help me keep up to date with his stuff without losing the orientation
So that’s all well and good. No problem for adding a few code lines.
But it’s a pain in the arse for adding longer script, because in order to keep Chris’s stuff I must paste in line by line in the space – you can’t paste multi lines in a space without losing all the stuff over to the right

It’s not a major problem: VBA is very good for easily manipulating text files. It’s a bit off topic here, so over at these 3 posts
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA/page8#post16366 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA?p=16366&viewfull=1#post16366
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA/page8#post16485 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA?p=16485&viewfull=1#post16485
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA/page8#post16491 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA?p=16491&viewfull=1#post16491
, I did some simple coding, using as a working example adding a long script to do the IP hosts block.

( Here the results: ' Temp7BeforeIPhostsInsert https://app.box.com/s/fttlmwny6y4s5ub1q66kvqbrw2ppxdwz
https://i.postimg.cc/T2K3rjbC/hosts-Before-2022-04.jpg

' blockIPhostsRawAll250 https://app.box.com/s/7019x59uvvxt7osvb0tojr0z4g7bfdgk
https://i.postimg.cc/pV3Xk9Yx/hosts-After-2022-04.jpg

' Temp8.ps1 https://app.box.com/s/9b9li86s7dyysr7exdle30pckgp7vscz )



https://i.postimg.cc/dZPvh72L/Temp8-2-Aprill-2022.jpg (https://postimg.cc/dZPvh72L)https://i.postimg.cc/XGy4NKyR/Temp8-2-Aprill-2022.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XGy4NKyR)






Temp8_02Apr2022.ps1 https://app.box.com/s/zz99n0yry1ssjs5wy3g0hj1qtwtpcnm1

[DocAElstein]

FAQs links on GUI
Chris has a few links to specific videos. I will use that technique to link to my FAQs ( My FAQs start here, from around post 60 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page60
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page60 )
This bit, for example puts a wide red banner button, ( its just a wide button ).

$urlfixwinstartup = Create-Button -Text " !! READ FAQs!! Fixes&TWEAKs may help you take control of your computer, but you are responsible. RED CAN DO DAMAGE" -FntSz 8 -Width 700 -Height 20 -ClmX 100 -RwY 85 -FClr "#FFFFFF" -BClr "#FF0000" # #FF0000 is html red #FFFFFF is html white
(The strange variable name is just because I used one of Chris’s button). I did not need to do anything else, except change the html on the Add_Click , ( https://i.postimg.cc/RFMBYNhM/Put-my-link-in-Chriss-url-button.jpg ) , because of the existing script there from Chris


This next one is completely mine. It puts a small Green button as for FAQs Main Tweaks

$urlMainTweeaksFAQ = Create-Button -Text "! FAQs MainTweaks" -FntSz 8 -Width 130 -Height 20 -ClmX 670 -RwY 205 -FClr "#FFFFFF" -BClr "#008000"[/color[color=Green]] # #008000 is html Green
I had to then do some more steps
_ a bit further down I added the variable to the Form Controls
https://i.postimg.cc/C5tn1L0y/Main-Tweaks-added-to-Form-Controls.jpg
_ Further down again, I made the Add_Click
https://i.postimg.cc/sXmCpsVv/My-Main-Tweaks-url-button.jpg

$urlMainTweeaksFAQ.Add_Click({
Start-Process "https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page60#post12965"
})

Here the two buttons as seen on the GUI
https://i.postimg.cc/7f46G5QR/First-two-FAQ-url-buttons.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7f46G5QR)

[DocAElstein]

Code in Add_Click to function alternative
In Chris’s script, the main meat of any Debloat tweak script, or install script, or any other thing done after clicking a button, appears in the code section within the .Add_Click , example:

$winterminal.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Installing New Windows Terminal"
$ResultText.text = "`r`n" +"`r`n" + "Installing New Windows Terminal... Please Wait"
winget install -e Microsoft.WindowsTerminal | Out-Host
if($?) { Write-Host "Installed New Windows Terminal" }
$ResultText.text = "`r`n" + "Finished Installing New Windows Terminal" + "`r`n" + "`r`n" + "Ready for Next Task"
})

That makes sense as the script within the .Add_Click is what is done when the button, ( in this case the button object variable $winterminal), is clicked by the user.

But there can be advantages to call an external script from within the .Add_Click. For example, this would give better flexibility in use of the script: The script could then be called from other buttons or other script.
This basic requirement, often done for convenience, is done by what is typically referred to in coding as a function or sub routine, which in simple terms is just a sub set of coding called from other coding

Simple examples are perhaps the easiest way to explain this:
This simple .Add_Click results in a text coming up when you click the button

$okButton.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Hello Shit World. Fuck off"
})

Using the function idea, that would be done with this

function SayHelloToTheShitWorld {
Write-Host "Hello Shit World. Fuck off"
}

$okButton.Add_Click({
SayHelloToTheShitWorld
})

What’s going on.
In simple terms:
For the non function script, the script associated with the click, wrote a text. ( It was written into the PowerShell window belonging to the opened instance of the PowerShell/ ISE window in which the script is ( - in computer jargon: the script is hosted there in that window or PowerShell shell) )
That is almost the same for the function case. The slight difference for the function way of doing it is that the script associated with the click sets off the script in the function SayHelloToTheShitWorld which is the same script as previously.

Important positioning of the function in relation to other things:
In PowerShell scripts things are not done as immediately as in some other languages. Things are generally done fir the first time, in sequence, as the script is run the first time. Not much is done before. Things tend to be stored the first time they are done or used or passed. They are then held in the memory of the open PowerShell until you close it.
This has some consequences.
_ ( Variables may have their type set the first time they are used, which can cause some unexpected results when developing or experimenting or debugging script during re runs. For this reason its often wise to include a command line towards the start of a script like this: Remove-Variable * -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue )
_ The workings associated with a function are stored as the function is passed. So for our example to work, the function must go above the first time it is used, - so it would not work if placed below the .Add_Click
_ ( Everything associated with the form is finally available after the form is shown. Hence often the last script line is some sort of .Show code line )
_._____

That concludes all we need to know. But in passing it my help get things more into a greater perspective appreciation if we explain the general function idea a little further. This may help avoid confusion later.
On most computer work and languages, the most simple function version as we showed above would rarely be referred to as a function, rather a simple routine or sub routine. The word function would usually be used for a slightly more advanced form of the basic simple coding whereby something, typically a single variable or single object, would be returned, the specific details of which are a function of, ( or as a result of ) , other things given to the function
This is a PowerShell script example that extends the previous example slightly:
A single value is given, 0 or 1, ( in this particular case it could also alternatively be given as True or False ). Depending on what is given, a text may or may not tell you the time at which you used the function. ( As I present it here, I am passing a 0 , so the final texts that come out are
___Hello Shit World. Fuck off
___I used the function on ....I am not telling you

function SayHelloToTheShitWorld {param($WantDate)
Write-Host "Hello Shit World. Fuck off"
if ($WantDate -eq 1) {
[string]$Hr=(Get-Date).Hour ; [string]$Mn = (Get-Date).Minute
[string]$Rtn =$Hr + "Hour, " + $Mn + "minutes"
return ($Rtn)}
else {return ("....I am not telling you")}
}

$okButton.Add_Click({ #$vscode.location = New-Object System.Drawing.Point(4,797)
$DateDone = SayHelloToTheShitWorld -WantDate [b]0
Write-Host "I used the function on $DateDone"
})
A function of this sort may or may not do something itself other than returning something as a function of what it is given.

The syntax may be a bit off topic for now, but just before we leave this introduction, lets do another function in PowerShell script that is more typical of a simple function example done generally in any introduction to function coding. This function returns a number, the value of which depends on the numbers given. Specifically it gives the sum of those numbers given.

function AddNumbers {param($Num1, $Num2, $Num3, $Num4)
return ($Num1 + $Num2 + $Num3 + $Num4)
}

$Reslt = addnumbers -Num2 2 -Num4 3
Write-Host "Result of summing numbers is $Reslt" # This is always done

$Some.Add_Click({ #$vscode.location = New-Object System.Drawing.Point(4,797)
$Reslt = addnumbers -Num2 2 -Num4 3
Write-Host "Result of summing numbers is $Reslt" # This is done if you hit the Some button
})


Share ‘functions.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/7rmx2zsasymftrikjojjs3p3g1g8lng6



An application of the function idea to my GUI version.

[DocAElstein]

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[DocAElstein]

Extending download tool options to include chocolatey
Currently Chris’s tool on first running checks for if the Microsoft App winget is installed. If not, it is installed. This app is somehow used to download other things form a “Microsoft store”.
Previously Chris had a button to choose to install an alternative downloading app tool, chocolatey, which you can then use to download other things if you choose. ( https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12782
Script: 04.12.2020 The Best Windows 10 Toolbox
Share ‘Chris2December2020FirstGUI.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/2btpz9fefsc57eqagy5iz9janq7622zg )

I was thinking of adding a multiple downloading App option, allowing you to use winget or chocolatey. (Those download tools may themselves first needs to be downloaded )
There seems to be some mixed opinions on what is best, Examples : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPfzFT7Kq5A&lc=UgzMtWu-V7_XRP5PL5l4AaABAg
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/issues/229
Originally Chris was keen on, and used , chocolatey. He seems as keen on winget now. But he often swings a bit from one thing to the other. Sometimes it seems justifiable, sometimes it just seems like he is like that.
I am less keen generally on downloading stuff on the tool, especially as whether it works or not seems to be a bit unpredictable and changes, especially for winget.
But I might keep the option for now. Having the two options will increase the chance of it working.
What I thought would be cool is that if the background color of the buttons for you winget or chocolatey would be different, and on clicking them, the download background color of the buttons for the downloads changed correspondingly, and at the same time some flag was set to indicate which of the two download tools should be used
( One small complication for now: The winget install does not seem to work in a button.
https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=37771
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-%28-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-%29/page51#post16363
I will ignore that for now, and leave in Chris’s script at the start that installs it if necessary)
First I have at this stage the winget install button. It’s after most of the other buttons are made, so I can apply the background colour change to the download buttons. I will choose navy for winget and brown for chocolatey

Examining the existing button I made for winget install, https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-%28-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-%29?p=16363#post16363 , we see we can make a bit of room by shifting everything down a bit, https://i.postimg.cc/HxVqtwhM/Shift-winget-button-stuff-down-to-make-space.jpg
A simple ForEach on an array of the relevant download button object variables gives us a convenient way to colour the background of the buttons

$GetWinGet.BackColor = [System.Drawing.ColorTranslator]::FromHtml("#000080") # this could go in the array as well
$Dnlds = @($PS, $PS7_2, $winterminal, $notepad, $vscode, $vscodium, $firefox, $gchrome, $mpc)
ForEach ($Dnld in $Dnlds){$Dnld.BackColor = [System.Drawing.ColorTranslator]::FromHtml("#000080" )} #000080 navy .BackColor.Name is ff000080


Later in the buttons, we can use a check on that color to determine what of the download apps is used


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Chocalety button
I don’t have this yet on my current script version, but I have a space that I anticipated using, https://i.postimg.cc/dkRHLVt2/Space-for-chocolatey-button.jpg (https://postimg.cc/dkRHLVt2), and so adding the button is easy, just as I added all the rest:
Three main things to do, ( It would be only two if I was not using a panel)
This first bit uses my buttton making function

$GetWinGet = Create-Button -Text "winget" -FntSz 9 -Width 117 -Height 21 -ClmX 3 -RwY 1 -FClr "#FFFFFF" -BClr "#417394" ; $Getchoco = Create-Button -Text "chocolatey" -FntSz 9 -Width 117 -Height 21 -ClmX 121 -RwY 1 -FClr "#FFFFFF" -BClr "#417394"

This second bit adds the button to a panel

$Panel10.controls.AddRange(@($GetWinGet, $Getchoco))

( I don’t need to do the third bit, add the panel to the form, as the panel is that already added and having the winget button )


The same technique for the background colouring can be applied at the start of, as I add, a new .Add_Click bit for chocolatey.
https://i.postimg.cc/zGPtFv4H/Added-chocolatey-Add-Click.jpg
It seems to work OK, ( I chose Olive as a common standard html color, close to brown color )
https://i.postimg.cc/KYCTZkHb/Olive-Buttons-chocolatey.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/1gcXBtS7/Olive-Buttons-chocolatey.jpg (https://postimg.cc/1gcXBtS7)



Before moving on with the download issues, I want to review some downloading PowerShell. I may add a lot more to that later, so I will do it all in its own post, the next one. I may or may not come back to this post.

[DocAElstein]

This is post https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page52#post127912
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page52#post127912





Collecting a few downloading PowerShell scripts
I can get some of this info from the archived stuff I recently learnt how to get at, ( https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page51#post12780
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page41#post12675 ).
As well as the basic download app, (chocalatrey or winget, I also look at some other stuff, for example, Richard’s original .Net 3.5, and Brave browser as that was done outside the download app initially



Richard Newton’s original .Net 3.5, from around March 6 - October 2019, when Chris had not noticed yet that Richard already had a GUI!
$InstallNet35.Add_Click( {
Write-Host "Initializing the installation of .NET 3.5..."
DISM /Online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:NetFx3 /All
Write-Host ".NET 3.5 has been successfully installed!"
} )
Share ‘Richard6March2019GUI.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/9jb475u0zfxub44hw0sd7212kft6moi7
In April 2020 it had not changed, nor in April 2022

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ChrisFirstScript27July2020.ps1 ( Not GUI )


Function InstallTitusProgs {
Write-Output "Installing Chocolatey"
Set-ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Scope Process -Force; [System.Net.ServicePointManager]::SecurityProtocol = [System.Net.ServicePointManager]::SecurityProtocol -bor 3072; iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://chocolatey.org/install.ps1'))
choco install chocolatey-core.extension -y
Write-Output "Running O&O Shutup with Recommended Settings"
Import-Module BitsTransfer
Start-BitsTransfer -Source "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script/master/ooshutup10.cfg" -Destination ooshutup10.cfg
Start-BitsTransfer -Source "https://dl5.oo-software.com/files/ooshutup10/OOSU10.exe" -Destination OOSU10.exe
./OOSU10.exe ooshutup10.cfg /quiet
}
Share ‘ChrisFirstScript27July2020.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/atcfp24bua063oi2mui4cf9hs5yada39

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ChrisSecond( He says Version1)Script29Oct2020.ps1

Function InstallTitusProgs is same as last script, for example to get chocolatey download app
Brave added fist time



Function InstallBrave {
do
{
Clear-Host
Write-Host "================ Do You Want to Install Brave Browser? ================"
Write-Host "Y: Press 'Y' to do this."
Write-Host "2: Press 'N' to skip this."
Write-Host "Q: Press 'Q' to stop the entire script."
$selection = Read-Host "Please make a selection"
switch ($selection)
{
'y' {
Invoke-WebRequest -Uri "https://laptop-updates.brave.com/download/CHR253" -OutFile $env:USERPROFILE\Downloads\brave.exe
~/Downloads/brave.exe
}
'n' { Break }
'q' { Exit }
}
}
until ($selection -match "y" -or $selection -match "n" -or $selection -match "q")

}
Share ‘ChrisSecond(Version1)Script29Oct2020.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/s7zwspwft02klem81c747wpoycarkjac

_._________________

Chris2December2020FirstGUI


$installchoco.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Installing Chocolatey"
Set-ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Scope Process -Force; [System.Net.ServicePointManager]::SecurityProtocol = [System.Net.ServicePointManager]::SecurityProtocol -bor 3072; iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://chocolatey.org/install.ps1'))
choco install chocolatey-core.extension -y
$wshell.Popup("Operation Completed",0,"Done",0x0)
})





$brave.Add_Click({
Invoke-WebRequest -Uri "https://laptop-updates.brave.com/download/CHR253" -OutFile $env:USERPROFILE\Downloads\brave.exe
~/Downloads/brave.exe
})

Share ‘Chris2December2020FirstGUI.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/2btpz9fefsc57eqagy5iz9janq7622zg

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Chris7JulySecondGUIGreyGUI2021.ps1
First use of winget


Try{
# Check if winget is already installed
$er = (invoke-expression "winget -v") 2>&1
if ($lastexitcode) {throw $er}
Write-Host "winget is already installed."
}
Catch{
# winget is not installed. Install it from the Github release
Write-Host "winget is not found, installing it right now."

$download = "https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/releases/download/v1.0.11692/Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_8wekyb3d8bbwe.msixbu ndle"
$output = $PSScriptRoot + "\winget-latest.appxbundle"
Write-Host "Dowloading latest release"
Invoke-WebRequest -Uri $download -OutFile $output

Write-Host "Installing the package"
Add-AppxPackage -Path $output
}
Finally {
# Start installing the packages with winget
#Get-Content .\winget.txt | ForEach-Object {
# iex ("winget install -e " + $_)
#}
}






$brave.Add_Click({
Write-Host "Installing Brave Browser"
winget install BraveSoftware.BraveBrowser | Out-Host
if($?) { Write-Host "Installed Brave Browser" }
})
Share ‘Chris7July2021.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/2btpz9fefsc57eqagy5iz9janq7622zg


_.______________________________________

From here some work was done at GitHub Pulls on how winget was got

Dynamically get the download Uri for the latest stable release of winget 3 Aug 2021



Try{
# Check if winget is already installed
$er = (invoke-expression "winget -v") 2>&1
if ($lastexitcode) {throw $er}
Write-Host "winget is already installed."
}
Catch{
# winget is not installed. Install it from the Github release
Write-Host "winget is not found, installing it right now."
$asset = Invoke-RestMethod -Method Get -Uri 'https://api.github.com/repos/microsoft/winget-cli/releases/latest' | ForEach-Object assets | Where-Object name -like "*.msixbundle"
$output = $PSScriptRoot + "\winget-latest.appxbundle"
Write-Host "Downloading latest winget release"
Invoke-WebRequest -Uri $asset.browser_download_url -OutFile $output
Write-Host "Installing the winget package"
Add-AppxPackage -Path $output
Write-Host "Cleanup winget install package"
if (Test-Path -Path $output) {
Remove-Item $output -Force -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
}
}
Finally {
# Start installing the packages with winget
#Get-Content .\winget.txt | ForEach-Object {
# iex ("winget install -e " + $_)
#}
} DynamicGetUriForLatestStablerelOfwinget3Aug2021.ps 1 https://app.box.com/s/7rmx2zsasymftrikjojjs3p3g1g8lng6


_._______________________________

MicrosoftStoreWinget28Aug2021


Write-Host "Checking winget..."
Try{
# Check if winget is already installed
$er = (invoke-expression "winget -v") 2>&1
if ($lastexitcode) {throw $er}
Write-Host "winget is already installed."
}
Catch{
# winget is not installed. Install it from the Microsoft Store
Write-Host "winget is not found, installing it right now."
Start-Process "ms-appinstaller:?source=https://aka.ms/getwinget"
$nid = (Get-Process AppInstaller).id
Wait-Process -Id $nid
}
Finally {
# Start installing the packages with winget
#Get-Content .\winget.txt | ForEach-Object {
# iex ("winget install -e " + $_)
#}
}
MicrosoftStoreWinget28Aug2021.ps1 https://app.box.com/s/0hde8k4ocsvx57l6ozldd8nxss6l8lmj

_.________________________________________________ _____

SlimedWinget31Aug2021

Write-Host "Checking winget..."
# Check if winget is installed
if (Test-Path ~\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps\winget.exe){
'Winget Already Installed'
}
else{
# Installing winget from the Microsoft Store
Write-Host "Winget not found, installing it now."
Start-Process "ms-appinstaller:?source=https://aka.ms/getwinget"
$nid = (Get-Process AppInstaller).Id
Wait-Process -Id $nid
Write-Host Winget Installed
}

SlimedWinget31Aug2021.ps1 https://app.box.com/s/llsza3dbwdgnvn8no0tl5pr4ink8e2ya

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[DocAElstein]

This is post #519 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page52#post12794
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page52#post12794


Process Manager
This is a bit late in the winter for me to be still posting stuff here, and perhaps a bit off-topic, ( actually as it went on, maybe not so off-topic.. )
By chance I stumbled on a short YouTube play list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh_sqzlXeDQ&list=PLRIhLt0RAxWZXhs7ZEaqYMCmHkbEIiver
Initially I saw it as a nice well explained PowerShell GUI series to help my recently acquired PowerShell GUI knowledge. But then as I got more into understanding the second video, ( Process Manager - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQSQesbw3B0&list=PLRIhLt0RAxWZXhs7ZEaqYMCmHkbEIiver&index=2 ) , I suddenly realised that there might be some application to some of my Debloat script ideas.

I wont take this much further until much later in the year, but these notes are just intended to remind me of what I learnt to the workings of the script, in particular the Process Manager. I am basically working through, and doing a walkthrough explanation of, the script given : https://pastebin.com/b5VMrmz7

_.___________
Some basic script coding of relevance/ differences to VBA

Basic concepts: . and | ( “dot” and “pipe/Piping” )
I think if you know VBA then you can fairly easily pick up PowerShell.
There is a similar object orientated hierarchical idea which you get through a . , and that is pretty well the same as in VBA.
But then there is a similar concept in parallel, a piping, | , which works a bit as its name suggests in that you filter or select/modify things as you go along the pipe sections: Think of it as pipes of different dimensions and / or pipes that filter or use or present the stuff flowing in different ways. The | separates the different sections. Some of the things going on in these stream like piping concepts sections are similar to SQL stuff

For Each Looping
In VBA this idea can be shown approximately in this pseudo coding:
__For Each Thing In theCollectionOfThings
___' This section is automatically looped for as many times as we have things, and each thing is put in the variable, Thing. We sometimes refer to Thing as the steering variable, and would need to be of type Variable or Object
___ Thing.doingstuff
___ Let SomethingElse = Thing.Something
__Next Thing

In PowerShell script we can approximately say that we have two ways to do this,
_ the first is like that in VBA , but just the syntax looks slightly different.
_ the second way is a bit more weird and needs us to introduce something completely new, which is usually used in conjunction with the looping: This - $_. ( That - $_ could also be used in the first way, but so far I have not seen it used there)
PowerShell Way1:-
Same idea , different syntax
__ For Each ( $Thing In $theCollectionOfThings ) {
___# This section works similarly to the VBA case ( In PowerShell script all variable names tart with a $ )
___ $Thing.doingstuff
___ $SomethingElse = $Thing.Something
__}

PowerShellWay2 ( Way2a) and way2b) ):-
This usually comes about during the piping of stuff, and it is less obvious that a loop happens. But is does. The difficulty in grasping this possibly comes about because the piping idea suggest that lots of things simultaneously are flowing. That can’t really happen., and they are really flowing one after the other, all be it so fast that to us they all are flowing in parallel simultaneously. I think perhaps the development and background low level stuff works so efficiency that it can be considered as if they all are flowing in parallel simultaneously. But as they are in fact looping, we can take advantage of this and “sneak in” a doing something loop. I suppose another way of thinking about this is that we have the ability to customise the filtering/selecting/modifying things going on in the Pipe sections.
This way 2 is somewhat tricky to understand because, as I write this I have seen two ways to do it, so I am looking at Way2a) and way 2b). But there might be more ways I have not set yet.
I will demo the two ways I have seen so far with pseudo script/coding examples. I might come back and add here later, if I come across more ways
Way2a)
_SomeThingsInThePipe | where { $_.Name –noteegaulto “Fred” } | hgIUdh………….
In that script/code snippet we have effectively looped to remove thee things that had the name of “Fred”
In that script/code snippet we have used for the first time the strange , $_ , which is the new PowerShell thing
This is used to access the current thing or object in the looping process.
So it is approximately equal to the Thing or $Thing in the previous examples:
Approximately
____________Thing = $Thing = $_
( Note: This Way2a) may be a debatable one. It suggest to me it’s a For-Each thing. Mostly it’s not indicated as such by others. Possibly the Where thing is an old SQL thing, and not generally regarded as a thing that loops. I am not sure: The use of the $_ suggested to me that we are in a loop)
Way2b)
In the last example, the use of where, may have indicated to PowerShell that we are wanting to do something in a loop to the things “passing in the pipe”.
We can also more explicitly indicate that we want to loop the things “passing in the pipe”. This then resembles the VBA and First PowerShell examples:
_SomeThingsInThePipe | ForEach ( {
___ $_.doingstuff
___ $SomethingElse = $_.Something
__ } )



I expect there is some inter changeability in using alternative ways, which I may come back to demonstrating later.
For now, with the gained knowledge I will go back to the script walkthrough and expanded explanations.

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Process Manager
Introduction:
So back to this “Process Manager”
( Process Manager - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQSQesbw3B0&list=PLRIhLt0RAxWZXhs7ZEaqYMCmHkbEIiver&index=2
https://pastebin.com/b5VMrmz7
my version with expanded comments , Share ‘XS86Video2ProcessManager.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/sig74y36c4tptmkumm62obznpef77iqz )

I am not intending a full walkthrough of that script, as this is just notes on some important parts for my later reference. This is an overview that may help the more detailed comment navigation of the script.
This first post will attempt to give an overview of the function to get the Processes complete with some detail, and then the nest post will look again in a bit more detail, and finally also cover the shorter function that stops the selected processes


Basic idea: What does the script do
This brings up inside a GUI, a ListView of a computers Processes, from which we could then select and stop some. https://i.postimg.cc/KKRqphDZ/Processes-Manager.jpg (https://postimg.cc/KKRqphDZ)


ListView on a GUI##
The script lines for this are very similar for those for the GUI itself or for those for a Panel.
Basically it initially requires declaring a variable to a list view object, which then has its properties assigned in the usual OOP way.
These are the main first 3 lines,
$listview_Processes = New-Object System.Windows.Forms.ListView
$listview_Processes.Location = New-Object System.Drawing.Size(8, 40)
$listview_Processes.Size = New-Object System.Drawing.Size(800, 402)
, then there are a few self explanatory lines defining properties
, and then finally we have a controls .Add line
$Form_HelloWorld.Controls.Add($listview_Processes)

Functions to get the processes and to stop them
A couple of significant differences to VBA and PowerShell script in regards to functions
_ PowerShell script seems to not work as immediately as VBA.
_ The functions in PowerShell are within the main script itself

The result of this is that we need to put the functions at the top of the main script: They need to be passed through at least once. After that they are held in memory of the current open PowerShell shell/window session. (**It seems OK to use variables in the function which are not yet declared: Our variable for the Listview,
$listview_Processes = New-Object System.Windows.Forms.ListView
, is not declared until later down in the script )









Function GetProcesses{
}
Function GetProcesses{
We start with some clearing of the $Listview_Processes object variable , even though at the top of the script , that variable has not been declared or set to anything yet**

We use a variable, $Processes for a sub set of the things in computer’s processes , ( they might actually be all of them ). I think them that we obtain an array of all those processes.
In some way that is not completely clear to me, a script line like this,
$AProcessProperties = $Processes[0].psObject.Properties
, is returning me something that has, possibly amongst other things, the typical headings for the first Processes. ( I think using the first Process , item 0 , is arbitrary. Any process would do )

# Make “columns”
I think adding a “column” is based on a more abstract part of making the Listview.
The script line uses the word Column, which is a bit strange, as the corresponding word row does not exist. ( Neither does the word record. Instead we have Item later where we might have expected row or record)
This word Column might have been just as inappropriate as the word Field, so god knows why Column was used, other than perhaps no one really knows what’s going on, Lol
It seems that we use Way2b) of a ForEach loop to Add the “Columns”, and this is done by giving some text name which effectively becomes the column or field header, in other words what appears across the top.
So the loop is a ForEach applied to our first Process variable, $AProcessProperties
____$AProcessProperties | ForEach-Object ( {
_____ $listview_Processes.Columns.Add("$($_.Name)")
____} )
As ever we are flexible with the syntax, and the following is exactly the same
__$AProcessProperties | ForEach-Object ( {$listview_Processes.Columns.Add("$($_.Name)")} )


__The next part is the remaining main script to fill the list view.
It comprises of a main Outer ForNext loop ######## , and then an Inner loop, -------##. Based on my explanations in the last post, in particular for way2a) , the inner loop section could be considered as two loops, one after the other
Filling “rows” of data.
The filling of “rows” in the listview is a slightly vague concept, similar to that for adding the “columns”, but at first glance the two concepts seem a bit mismatched:
So far we have a seemingly equally important set of headings. But as we move on now, to fill the rows, it seems that the first column has some sort of higher significance.
It’s a bit weird:
The main outer loop is reasonably clear, the rest is a bit weird. The main outer loop is all the processes,
__ ForEach ($Process in $Processes){ ########


__ } _______________________________ ########
That makes sense: A row for a process
The column filling is a bit weird. It seems as if a “row” is considered an Item but that Item can be text or any unique number, like the left most column in an Excel spreadsheet, except that it does not have to be sequential numbers** and, this is the most peculiar, at the top of this first column is the first header value. That is weird. That is as if, for example our Excel spreadsheet looked like thisheader1
Header 2
A Header
Last Column Header

345

232

36
So in the script that I am walking through, it looks like we try to make that first column look like a normal first column, then add the other column values. Weird!
Just to confuse things a bit more, we can actually access later the “row” or Items by sequential number that starts at zero and goes down like, pseudo this strange situation
header1
Header2
A Header
Last Column Header
0\345
1\232
2\36

# Make a “row”s( Item )######################## MAIN Script LOOP
So far, (what we have already done: it appears that the Column(headers) some how belong to the .Net Forms thing which were defined in the initial script lines## for the variable $listview_Processes
$listview_Processes = New-Object System.Windows.Forms.ListView
$listview_Processes.Location = New-Object System.Drawing.Size(8, 40)
$listview_Processes.Size = New-Object System.Drawing.Size(800, 402)
So that object thing has somehow “columns” as part of it.
But now as we move on, it appears that we must make a new object thing for each for each row , and add that to the ListView
Best recap that again: make a ListView
_ Make a ListView object, add that object to the form, add columns to the ListView object
_ __ For Each row you want ( {
_____ make a ListView”row”(Item) object, add that object to the ListView object } )
So its all a bit crazy and mental. Never mind. Onward
So the main outer loop ####### on the script is for all “rows”, and it starts with
___ ForEach ($Process in $Processes)
, and then the next line is the object thing that we need to make a “row” ( Item )
____ $ProcessListViewItem = New-Object System.Windows.Forms.ListViewItem(
This seems to need some identifier, and will be the “left margin” number so we choose it for convenience to be what we want in the first column. So this may be a fiddle to use that “left margin” identifying “Item” as a normal column ………….System.Windows.Forms.ListViewItem( $Process.Id)
At this point we effectively have an object thing which need to be added to in order to give it the entire “row”/ record data. The obscure way this is done is by adding to the Item , “sub items”.
## SubItems ##--
It would appear that what we perceive as the columns from the second column, are regarded in the obscure PowerShell syntax as SubItems

As this is all getting a bit crazy, and the main loop introduces a lot of even more crazy and obscure PowerShell object concepts so we had best start a new post for it.

This schematic attempts to summarise the situation, but we will go into this and the functions again in more detail in the next post


header1header2A Header Last Header<-- This bit with the created “column” is part of the main ListView object


0\ 345 SubItemSubItemSubItem<-- This brown thing is a ListViewItem object. It has an Item number of 0,
and an Item identifier/name of 345Item 0


1\ 232 SubItemSubItemSubItem<-- This blue thing is a ListViewItem object. It has an Item number of 1,
and an Item identifier/name of 232Item 1


2\ 36 SubItemSubItemSubItem<-- This purple thing is a ListViewItem object. It has an Item number of 2
and an Item identifier/name of 36Item 2
__
In the above schematic we are showing 4 objects. The last three belong to the first one, ( after they have been ned to it ).
The values in the first column somehow belong to the main ListView object.
SubItems are Added to the ListViewItems

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Function GetProcesses{
}
Function GetProcesses{ ……………_
This was the summary situation which we ended up with from the last post.
An approximate schematic summary of the situation at which we have so far arrived at
header1header2A Header Last Header<-- This bit with the created “column” is part of the main ListView object


0\ 345 SubItemSubItemSubItem<-- This brown thing is a ListViewItem object. It has an Item number of 0,
and an Item identifier/name of 345Item 0


1\ 232 SubItemSubItemSubItem<-- This blue thing is a ListViewItem object. It has an Item number of 1,
and an Item identifier/name of 232Item 1


2\ 36 SubItemSubItemSubItem<-- This purple thing is a ListViewItem object. It has an Item number of 2
and an Item identifier/name of 36Item 2
__
In the above schematic we are showing 4 objects. The last three belong to the first one, ( after they have been ned to it ).
The values in the first column somehow belong to the main ListView object.
SubItems are Added to the ListViewItems


Everything we need comes from early on in the function via
$Processes = Get-Process | Select-Object Id,ProcessName,Handles,NPM,PM,WS,VM,CPU,Path, # and I think this is getting us an array of objects.
Write-Host $Processes
will get us one of these for every Process
@{Id=5800; ProcessName=AggregatorHost; Handles=88; NPM=6112; PM=1200128; WS=2211840; VM=2203375075328; CPU=1,0625; Path=C:\WINDOWS\System32\AggregatorHost.exe}
Similarly in PowerShell typing $Processes would get us a lot of things like this
# Id : 5800
# ProcessName : AggregatorHost
# Handles : 88
# NPM : 6112
# PM : 1200128
# WS : 2211840
# VM : 2203375075328
# CPU : 1,0625
# Path : C:\WINDOWS\System32\AggregatorHost.exe

The next line,
( and a similar one used a bit further down in the main function Loop for all processes, ForEach ($Process in $Processes){ ),
could do with some elaboration possibly
$AProcessProperties = $Processes[0].psObject.Properties
( _____ $Process.psObject.Properties )
The way the script uses those last two lines, is such that $AProcessProperties is going to be the same as the first one of $Process.psObject.Properties , because that lattter is used in ForEach ($Process in $Processes){

psObject
The best guess I can give for this at the moment is this:
Things generally in PowerShell are objects, or can usually be taken/ used as if they were.
The .psObject for a thing is some sort of wrapper allowing the PowerShell command type things to somehow make use of the newest sort of OOP stuff which often goes under the use of the word .Net
Anoother approximation could be to say it returns something similar to the Class of the thing we apply it to. It then follows that the .Properties is going to return the object things.

As it happens we seem to be going around in circles in the given script that accompanies the video:
We started with these, Id,ProcessName,Handles,NPM,PM,WS,VM,CPU,Path , and the two script bits using the .psObject seem to have the main purpose of returning them.

Perhaps I can save a lot of time by giving a version of the given script, and then a script that seems to do exactly the same!

Function GetProcesses{
$listview_Processes.Items.Clear()
$listview_Processes.Columns.Clear()
$Processes = Get-Process | Select Id,ProcessName,Handles,NPM,PM,WS,VM,CPU,Path
$ProcessProperties = $Processes[0].psObject.Properties
$ProcessProperties | ForEach-Object { $listview_Processes.Columns.Add("$($_.Name)") }
ForEach ($Process in $Processes){
$ProcessListViewItem = New-Object System.Windows.Forms.ListViewItem($Process.Id)
$Process.psObject.Properties | Where {$_.Name -ne "Id"} | ForEach-Object {
$ColumnName = $_.Name ; $ProcessListViewItem.SubItems.Add("$($Process.$ColumnName)")
}
$listview_Processes.Items.Add($ProcessListViewItem )
}
$listview_Processes.AutoResizeColumns("HeaderSize")
}
Function GetProcesses{
$listview_Processes.Items.Clear()
$listview_Processes.Columns.Clear()
$Processes = Get-Process | Select-Object Id,ProcessName,Handles,NPM,PM,WS,VM,CPU,Path
ForEach ($Hdr in @("Id", "ProcessName", "Handles", "NPM", "PM", "WS", "VM", "CPU", "Path")){$listview_Processes.Columns.Add($Hdr)}
ForEach ($Process in $Processes){
$ProcessListViewItem = New-Object System.Windows.Forms.ListViewItem($Process.Id)
ForEach ($Hdr in @( "ProcessName", "Handles", "NPM", "PM", "WS", "VM", "CPU", "Path")){$ProcessListViewItem.SubItems.Add("$($Process.$Hdr)")}
$listview_Processes.Items.Add($ProcessListViewItem )
}
$listview_Processes.AutoResizeColumns("HeaderSize")
}



Here is a comparison of a Write-Host line added to show for the first psObject returned thing, and then the same got from the PowerShell window

int Id=5236 string ProcessName=AggregatorHost int Handles=88 long NPM=6112 long PM=1142784 long WS=5099520 long VM=2203375075328 System.Double CPU=0,578125 System.String Path=C:\WINDOWS\System32\AggregatorHost.exe
PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> $Processes = Get-Process | Select Id,ProcessName,Handles,NPM,PM,WS,VM,CPU,Path
PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> $ProcessProperties = $Processes[0].psObject.Properties
PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> $ProcessProperties

MemberType : NoteProperty
IsSettable : True
IsGettable : True
Value : 5236
TypeNameOfValue : System.Int32
Name : Id
IsInstance : True
MemberType : NoteProperty
IsSettable : True
IsGettable : True
Value : AggregatorHost
TypeNameOfValue : System.String
Name : ProcessName
IsInstance : True
MemberType : NoteProperty
IsSettable : True
IsGettable : True
Value : 88
TypeNameOfValue : System.Int32
Name : Handles
IsInstance : True
MemberType : NoteProperty
IsSettable : True
IsGettable : True
Value : 6112
TypeNameOfValue : System.Int64
Name : NPM
IsInstance : True
MemberType : NoteProperty
IsSettable : True
IsGettable : True
Value : 1142784
TypeNameOfValue : System.Int64
Name : PM
IsInstance : True
MemberType : NoteProperty
IsSettable : True
IsGettable : True
Value : 5099520
TypeNameOfValue : System.Int64
Name : WS
IsInstance : True
MemberType : NoteProperty
IsSettable : True
IsGettable : True
Value : 2203375075328
TypeNameOfValue : System.Int64
Name : VM
IsInstance : True
MemberType : NoteProperty
IsSettable : True
IsGettable : True
Value : 0,578125
TypeNameOfValue : System.Double
Name : CPU
IsInstance : True
MemberType : NoteProperty
IsSettable : True
IsGettable : True
Value : C:\WINDOWS\System32\AggregatorHost.exe
TypeNameOfValue : System.String
Name : Path
IsInstance : True

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just testing

test test

This is not a love song
This is post https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page53#post12797
https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page53#post12797
https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page53#post12797
https://tinyurl.com/2p82naym


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C-DXeqUTgA

I can comment here easily , and have lots of format to mess with to make it pretty

_SomeThingsInThePipe | ForEach ( {
___ $_.doingstuff
___ $SomethingElse = $_.Something
__ } )




'https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA/page5
'https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA?p=16480&viewfull=1#post16480
'https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA/page5#post16480
Sub CopyExcelColumnSpamURL()
Selection.Copy ' This will put it in the clipboard

'Dim objCliCodeCopied As DataObject '**Early Binding. This is for an Object from the class MS Forms. This will be a Data Object of what we "send" to the Clipboard. So I name it CLIpboardSend. But it is a DataObject. It has the Methods I need to send text to the Clipboard
' Set objCliCodeCopied = New DataObject '**Must enable Forms Library: In VB Editor do this: Tools -- References - scroll down to Microsoft Forms 2.0 Object Library -- put checkmark in. Note if you cannot find it try OR IF NOT THERE..you can add that manually: VBA Editor -- Tools -- References -- Browse -- and find FM20.DLL file under C:\WINDOWS\system32 and select it --> Open --> OK. https://web.archive.org/web/20140610055224/http://excelmatters.com/2013/10/04/late-bound-msforms-dataobject/
' ( or instead of those two lines Dim obj As New DataObject ). or next two lines are.....Late Binding equivalent'
Dim objCli As Object ' Late Binding equivalent' If you declare a variable as Object, you are late binding it. https://web.archive.org/web/20141119223828/http://excelmatters.com/2013/09/23/vba-references-and-early-binding-vs-late-binding/
Set objCli = GetObject("New:{1C3B4210-F441-11CE-B9EA-00AA006B1A69}") ' https://web.archive.org/web/20140610055224/http://excelmatters.com/2013/10/04/late-bound-msforms-dataobject/
objCli.GetFromClipboard 'All that is in the Clipboard goes in this Data Object initial instance of the Class
Dim SpamURLs As String ' String varable to take the moodified code. This can be very long, like my cock
Let SpamURLs = objCli.GetText() 'retrieve the text in the initial instance of the Class. ( In this case the original code modifies to have code lines )
' Call WtchaGot_Unic_NotMuchIfYaChoppedItOff(SpamURLs)

Let SpamURLs = Replace(SpamURLs, vbCr & vbLf, "[/uRl]" & vbCr & vbLf, 1, -1, vbBinaryCompare)
Let SpamURLs = Replace(SpamURLs, "http", "[uRl]http", 1, -1, vbBinaryCompare)

' Make a data Object to put back in clipboard. This a Another Object from class just to demo, could have used the first
'Dim objDatCliBackIn As DataObject
' Set objDatCliBackIn = New DataObject 'Set to a new Instance ( Blue Print ) of dataobject
Dim objDatCliBackIn As Object
Set objDatCliBackIn = GetObject("New:{1C3B4210-F441-11CE-B9EA-00AA006B1A69}")
objDatCliBackIn.SetText "Alan Spam Tests" & vbCr & vbLf & SpamURLs 'Make Data object's text equal to the long string of the modified code
objDatCliBackIn.PutInClipboard 'Place current Data object into the Clipboard, effectivelly putting its text, which is oue final code in the Clipcoard
End Sub

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Github Updates and Obsidian Wizardry 22 04 2022
Chris did a live stream of some relevance so,
_ first some notes, part of which might be used in some comments, so they might appear as if I am talking to Chris.
_ based on the changes I will update my Temp11.ps1 to Temp12.ps1

Initially he talks about some software, Obsidian. I have no idea about that. A quick glance looks like it’s a limited less useful platform to do what I do at my well organised forum. But when I check it out, I might change my ideas. Its easy to get used to something, then think it’s the best. You do that frequently, and then change your mind, later. That’s cool

He started looking at GitHub, at minute 36 He is going to close a lot as he is going to re write drastically the win 10 debloater script. That might include your idea to try out WPF.
(1 Hr 10Min 55Secs, https://youtu.be/mXrmy8T74lM?t=4255 , check out there: You used 1440, untypical low for you, and you went on further at 1Hr 13Min 30Secs , https://youtu.be/mXrmy8T74lM?t=4410 , to bring up again the issue of WPF v WindowsForms , ( https://youtu.be/mXrmy8T74lM?t=4425 1hr 13min 45 secs ) )

He started looking at Pull requests, PRs…
PR #305 d4rklynk, add Librewolf
Has some useful stuff, Chris couldn’t be bothered and was confused as everyone is in how things get linked to other peoples stuff in at GitHub, so he just closed it. (Librewolf may have been trying to link to his stuff, but it could partly be that Chris or both of them don’t understand GitHub completely)

PR #304 SimPilotAdamT, Fix issue #299 and #302
Good one – stops the “Task manager extra details bit hanging” – I think I noticed something screwy there myself once so was added that to latest version, and I will

_.____
After this Chris broke off a bit and decided to get a virtual machine up and test before doing more Merge/Commit stuff
He went for a Windows 11 virtual machine up, and as usual got in a muddle,
At min 42 30 https://youtu.be/mXrmy8T74lM?t=2550 he does windows 11 because he thinks most of us have switched.
( I think- Issues will be sorted out by chance I expect, which will take a while, and I don’t have the extra resources to be a Guinea Pig on windows 11
So I am partially beginning to be switched to windows 11, but not as regards using Debloat scripts for a good improved and speeded up versions )
It did not work, so he ended up using a windows 10.

At Minute 50 , 30 secs ( https://youtu.be/mXrmy8T74lM?t=3030 ) , seconds you were not sure about recent windows 10 versions:
21H2 was the latest released in middle November 2021
( From about that date until the current time, I had a few standard earlier versions, mostly connected to the internet permanently and mostly on default update settings. Microsoft never updated them surprisingly. One I forced to update, and it took a very long time, but was finally successful. Perhaps MS were uncharacteristically not in a rush to update on this one)

Back to the PRs
1 16 30 back to pull requests https://youtu.be/mXrmy8T74lM?t=4590

PR Mrhaydendp #308 Batch Installer for WinGet
A good one. Chris totally missed the point 1 Hr 19 you did not take the time to do justice to the batch instillation PR
I think you should not get too excited by any particular way about installing winget. I have seen it vary which works from time to time, and most likely will continue to do so. Better would be to concentrate your efforts on some script to try a few ways, and pick the one that might work.
(And betters still either
_ don’t install stuff at all
Or
_ make it more bullet proof as I mentioned and even further perhaps to allow chocolaty install alternative. )


1Hr 19Min 35secs host ( https://youtu.be/mXrmy8T74lM?t=4775 ) general comments on etc hosts, then on to the PR that was a major part of the Video, 1Hr 20Min 45Secs #306
PR Brandonbr1 #306 Add a script to block ads and include things from the scripts folder into the actual main file the people download
Chris liked most, ( takes out an anti spyware line
# Disabling Antispyware flags script as virus and also doesn't work with anti-tamper measures introduced in 20H2+
# Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender" -Name "DisableAntiSpyware" -Type DWord -Value 00000001 )
Chris loves the stuff at 1 22 22 , https://youtu.be/mXrmy8T74lM?t=4950 - The Guy is doing a NetSH to do a firewall

An interesting comment from someone else on the PR Windows Defender (and most other antiviruses) has a history of blocking files that modify the hosts file due to it being a common technique used by viruses to create a backdoor in people's systems. This might be why there isn't a hosts file blocking implementation in the script yet. Also might be because hosts file blocking can introduce problems for people who use sites like Microsoft and Google services. Having it as a separate script might be best .
Chris at 1 22 30 :
, - “This is why I love G__H__ - go through PRs before you get a great one , like this one…”
( some time earlier Chris said he should test stuff before committing/Merging. But he forgot that, and committed/Merged this one, because he loved it so much )

Chris a few minute later, still on the same PR –
, - The TLDR: He was very, very, very upset by that PR – “Sometimes I hate PRs and wish I just code it all myself”

_.. Another G__H__ fuck up
But is good to see the development, ( or not ), on a Live stream. And entertaining :)
( Maybe you were a bit hard on the guy, Brandonbr1.
OK, it broke stuff for you. You easily fixed it. Sometimes your script brakes stuff for others. Often they can’t fix it.

( 1Hr 27Min 50secs:- Chris you like Terminal. I don’t know much about these things myself, but some people smarter than me tell me that Terminal will probably go under when the open source PowerShell 7 becomes widely used )

So.. the fuck up_
On testing he was concerned that the write-host did not appear?
There seemed to be some other errors
I think he did some repair to fix the bad PR – after changing some things, ( mostly deleting stuff, he somehow did a GitHub PR repair Push/Commit/Merge or whatever, called Fix bad PR.
Fix bad PR. Fuck up
https://i.postimg.cc/684smbSD/Fix-bad-PR.jpg (https://postimg.cc/684smbSD)

A re run in terminal seemed to error similarly, or maybe not after a refresh / wait. .. It then seemed to work .. got as far as ..”blocking Ip telemetry”.
Then a bit after Chris was very, very, very upset… He vanished behind the scenes with a cable, …
The repair details are summarised here : 1Hr 49min summarised fix https://youtu.be/mXrmy8T74lM?t=6558
_.____

Back to other Pull requests
PR THEBOSSMAGNUS #298, Add microsoft visual c++ runtime
Chris left it open

Sparker-99 #291 ,Added waterfox install
Chris don’t like that browser so closed it

Sighi-04 #286 Fixed dead package name for adobe reader installer
Simple one line change, Chris accepted
684 winget install -e Adobe.AdobeAcrobatReaderDC | Out-Host
684 winget install -e --id Adobe.Acrobat.Reader.64-bit | Out-Host

Carterpersall #285 Tweaked a Few Things and Resolved Several Issues
Looks like GitHub made it messy, and Chris was too tired and fed up to look at it, or he may hve hidden it in a branch. God knows. I doubt anyone else does
Hit Files changed to take a look ( https://i.postimg.cc/Cdp50XVH/Hit-Files-changed-to-taske-a-look.jpg ) These may be individual files

Myxxmikeyxx #282 Added Git For Windows Button Option
This was to add a button, but Chris liked the idea, and said he will put it into Github Desktop button instead of another installer, and he may have done it.. I will need to check the $githubdsktop.Add_Click{(


I liked your comments towards the end, of you wanting your own place, in parallel to anything or anywhere else that you do stuff, so as to keep some sort of longevity. That is exactly what I think about my forum. For a year or two I am mostly in the background trying to understand how to maintain it, reliably.
Although I don’t always approve of some of the addicts, some of whom I think are psychos, spending all of their life at forums, some do have it as the most important part of their life.
A few are nice people, just a bit lonely and sad, in their old age, with nothing better that they are able to do. They do provide a service from which others benefit. In recent years, some forums have vanished without warning, or some places been changed to read only. That has been very unkind to some of these people.



Update Temp11.ps1 to Temp12.ps1 from Chris23April2022.ps1
As usual, I would like to keep up to date with Chris’s development, so I add lines to my latest, Temp11.ps1 , using the latest from Chris, , to know where the lines are needed.
Either the linnes are
_ left empty
or
_ include all or part of what Chris has there: the purpose of that is.
The purpose of that is to either use, and/ or make it easier to compare future versions of Chris’s script with mine.

To do this I typically put the two files side by side in their own window ( ISE or Notepad++) , , and scroll down making a changes as I go along to keep similar code lines at the same place, as much as possible…



















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9.34 Live - Github Updates and Obsidian Wizardry-mXrmy8T74lM_22 04 2022
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1viqdprTq9Nhba0D3iTGBpIweka8Wa_G4/view?usp=drive_web
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXrmy8T74lM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WdAESH57-xEJOc38pZCC55JoYxhHw3ym/view?usp=drive_web
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y-WQZFe1H4YjlQjCnw9tEK2wTZQh9a_n/view?usp=drive_web

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Update Temp11.ps1 to Temp12.ps1 from Chris23April2022.ps1

It looks like I might have accidentally added 2-3 empty lines from 577, so I took those out. Then I am back in sinc
A single space line discrepancy at about 771, possibly my error again

A single line has been used to include the extra Git.Git, so I take that ,

From 983 we make the change for the If on task manager, which looks as though I need two extra lines,

From 1026, # Network Tweaks has been shifted down for a # reducing ram via regedit I take that for now as it is , , ---

Had a line out of wach , took out a line just before #Laptopnumlock to bring it back in sinc


That’s it??
So it looks like the entire host blocking ( P Request, Brandonbr1 #306 ) got missed out. The video suggested you wanted to , and did have, at least some of it still there.
Probably another dimension to disaster that G__ Hub is: A G__ Hub F___ up on top of a G__ Hub F___ up











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This is post https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page53#post12800
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page53#Post12800





Week later 29 Apr 2022 Chris surprised me with his first WPF attempt
I was hoping Chris would not get around to doing this for a while, but he has done it very quickly following a week later from his last Live Stream which heavily mentioned the Debloat script.
Chris said he did C stuff at college, ( 22 years ago ) – strange – he said before in a video that he never went to college?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBhFPW_LuM
9.36 Live - New Windows Tool-xqBhFPW_LuM_29 04 2022
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qLz_QYQir1Zvy3glHSGgOuUvz_VtwiGu/view?usp=drive_web
It looks like Chris has started uploading the first attempts at GitHub: From 28 April, 2022
Share ‘ChrisFirstWPFDeleted.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/9ek7nd1hoc82nncizr91lf540sm3tblf

What’s going on..
Without looking at detail yet, just gleaning from Laymen info the video:
WPF is some tool to make a nice GUI. Its based on the .Net stuff, but optimised to make a nice GUI. WPF seems to chuck out a “Semmel” ( xml ) coding. That comes from Visual Studio. I guess we can think of it initially, approximately, as a posh GUI that does not limit you to PowerShell.
However, for now, Chris is going to use PowerShell, and the free Visual Studio. For now, we can think of Visual Studio as a development environment like the VB Editor in VBA or the ISE in PowerShell. But its somehow much more all encompassing.

Lets say that again, partly graphically , and in particular showing also what Chris is doing in the video, ( which he mentions has some limitations, but for now he accepts that to keep it all free source in PowerShell .ps1 file. Going into a full executable, will remove some limitations, and he may be in danger of going into that , by the back door… )
What’s going on..and how
Intro:
So the new stuff, somehow made a XML coding that in .Net gives us a nice GUI. Some of that is comprehendible as being obvious what it is referring to. So we can make some simple changes or additions, such as in this example, Chris added a few extra checkboxes.
XML – PowerShell GUI coding
This is an interesting bit: We can paste that XML coding in a normal .txt / .ps1 file, or rather we out that coding in a PowerShell variable, pseudo like


$inputXML = @"
<Window x:Class="WinUtility.MainWindow"
xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/winfx/2006/xaml/presentation"
xmlns:x="http://schemas.microsoft.com/winfx/2006/xaml"
xmlns:d="http://schemas.microsoft.com/expression/blend/2008"
xmlns:mc="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006"
xmlns:local="clr-namespace:WinUtility"
mc:Ignorable="d"
Background="#777777"
Title="Chris Titus Tech's Windows Utility" Height="450" Width="800">
<Viewbox>
<Grid Background="#777777" ShowGridLines="False" Name="MainGrid">




# Lots of html / xml like stuff…….


</Grid>
</Viewbox>
</Window>

"@
That above is just a random snippet. In the actual thing there is lots of Grid and other stuff

There then follows some very complex and verbose coding that Chris does not understand and I doubt I ever will that makes the objects and there variables available to PowerShell. This worries me a bit, since understanding this coding may never take place
In that complex coding is a final function, that gets the variables from the GUI.
Get-Formvariables
That line is done once, and if I do that code line manually it in the PowerShell Window, then I will get a list of the variables.
https://i.postimg.cc/DW0mbXKS/Get-Formvariables.jpg (https://postimg.cc/DW0mbXKS) 3911
The running of the form also gives these variables: This text file is what comes out in PowerShell on running, followed by my manual run of Get-Formvariables

PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF\ChrisFirstWPFDeleted.ps1
If you need to reference this display again, run Get-FormVariables
Found the following interactable elements from our form

Name Value
---- -----
WPFadobe System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Adobe Reader DC IsChecked:False
WPFadvancedip System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Advanced IP Scanner IsChecked:False
WPFautohotkey System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:AutoHotkey IsChecked:False
WPFbrave System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Brave IsChecked:False
WPFchrome System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Google Chrome IsChecked:False
WPFdiscord System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Discord IsChecked:False
WPFesearch System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Everything Search IsChecked:False
WPFetcher System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Etcher USB Creator IsChecked:False
WPFfirefox System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Firefox IsChecked:False
WPFgimp System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:GIMP (Image Editor) IsChecked:False
WPFgithubdesktop System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:GitHub Desktop IsChecked:False
WPFIcon System.Windows.Controls.Image
WPFimageglass System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:ImageGlass (Image Viewer) IsChecked:False
WPFinstall System.Windows.Controls.Button: Start Install
WPFMainGrid System.Windows.Controls.Grid
WPFmpc System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Media Player Classic (Video Player) IsChecke...
WPFnotepadplus System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Notepad++ IsChecked:False
WPFpowertoys System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Microsoft Powertoys IsChecked:False
WPFputty System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Putty and WinSCP IsChecked:False
WPFsevenzip System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:7-Zip IsChecked:False
WPFsharex System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:ShareX (Screenshots) IsChecked:False
WPFsumatra System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Sumatra PDF IsChecked:False
WPFTab1 System.Windows.Controls.TabItem Header:Install Content:
WPFTab1BT System.Windows.Controls.Button: Install
WPFTab2 System.Windows.Controls.TabItem Header:Debloat Content:
WPFTab2BT System.Windows.Controls.Button: Debloat
WPFTab3 System.Windows.Controls.TabItem Header:Config Content:
WPFTab3BT System.Windows.Controls.Button: Config
WPFTab4 System.Windows.Controls.TabItem Header:Updates Content:
WPFTab4BT System.Windows.Controls.Button: Updates
WPFTabNav System.Windows.Controls.TabControl Items.Count:4
WPFterminal System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Windows Terminal IsChecked:False
WPFTitusPB System.Windows.Controls.ProgressBar Minimum:0 Maximum:100 Value:0
WPFttaskbar System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Translucent Taskbar IsChecked:False
WPFvlc System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:VLC (Video Player) IsChecked:False
WPFvscode System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:VS Code IsChecked:False
WPFvscodium System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:VS Codium IsChecked:False



PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> Get-FormVariables
Found the following interactable elements from our form

Name Value
---- -----
WPFadobe System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Adobe Reader DC IsChecked:False
WPFadvancedip System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Advanced IP Scanner IsChecked:False
WPFautohotkey System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:AutoHotkey IsChecked:False
WPFbrave System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Brave IsChecked:False
WPFchrome System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Google Chrome IsChecked:False
WPFdiscord System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Discord IsChecked:False
WPFesearch System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Everything Search IsChecked:False
WPFetcher System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Etcher USB Creator IsChecked:False
WPFfirefox System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Firefox IsChecked:False
WPFgimp System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:GIMP (Image Editor) IsChecked:False
WPFgithubdesktop System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:GitHub Desktop IsChecked:False
WPFIcon System.Windows.Controls.Image
WPFimageglass System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:ImageGlass (Image Viewer) IsChecked:False
WPFinstall System.Windows.Controls.Button: Start Install
WPFMainGrid System.Windows.Controls.Grid
WPFmpc System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Media Player Classic (Video Player) IsChecke...
WPFnotepadplus System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Notepad++ IsChecked:False
WPFpowertoys System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Microsoft Powertoys IsChecked:False
WPFputty System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Putty and WinSCP IsChecked:False
WPFsevenzip System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:7-Zip IsChecked:False
WPFsharex System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:ShareX (Screenshots) IsChecked:False
WPFsumatra System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Sumatra PDF IsChecked:False
WPFTab1 System.Windows.Controls.TabItem Header:Install Content:
WPFTab1BT System.Windows.Controls.Button: Install
WPFTab2 System.Windows.Controls.TabItem Header:Debloat Content:
WPFTab2BT System.Windows.Controls.Button: Debloat
WPFTab3 System.Windows.Controls.TabItem Header:Config Content:
WPFTab3BT System.Windows.Controls.Button: Config
WPFTab4 System.Windows.Controls.TabItem Header:Updates Content:
WPFTab4BT System.Windows.Controls.Button: Updates
WPFTabNav System.Windows.Controls.TabControl Items.Count:4
WPFterminal System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Windows Terminal IsChecked:False
WPFTitusPB System.Windows.Controls.ProgressBar Minimum:0 Maximum:100 Value:0
WPFttaskbar System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:Translucent Taskbar IsChecked:False
WPFvlc System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:VLC (Video Player) IsChecked:False
WPFvscode System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:VS Code IsChecked:False
WPFvscodium System.Windows.Controls.CheckBox Content:VS Codium IsChecked:False



PS C:\WINDOWS\system32>



Because we have the variables we can do things to them as in the old tool script, such as adding Add_Click stuff

[DocAElstein]

Minute 6, 55 seconds https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=415 .. limitation of this “open” non .exe way
.. since It’s running in PowerShell. That will take precedence. It’s the parent that’s doing everything, .. If you do something in the GUI that sends back to PowerShell, it will lock the GUI until whatever is finished in the background.
…If I did a full .exe on the front end and embedded PowerShell. It would not be like that


Because we have the variables we can do things to them as in the old tool script, such as adding Add_Click stuff



It’s the viewbox that makes it autoscale
He finds WPF a bit more obscure than C
He loves VS and the real time stuff
He has effectively two panels, “grids split 30% 70% with
Then he has a vertical stack panel ( which is the default ) which is the left most buttons.

Rants as ever about Pull Requests he fucked up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBhFPW_LuM&t=575s
Basically Chris has made a mess with Essential Tweaks and he is hiding it behind pretending he had bad Pull Requests. In fact he barely looked at the Pull Requests and those he did he messed up. So he is sort of going back and looking more carefully in a module like way, on the meat and splitting it. Just like my very first thoughts after getting clued up on his last year or so of the old Tool
A bit later he goes someway to justify his comments – things are just merged in with no documentation, but who is responsible for that? Debatable,
https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=3687 https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=3608 stuff there
https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=3688 Good night what a mess - got his Hibernations in a mess


Drilling into meat, of it, line by line, ( hiding his mess up by saying making it perfect for everyone )
When you select Laptop it will click the Misc. Tweaks for Enable Power Throttling ( to save battery, and Disable NumLock on Startup because a lot of Laptops don’t have affinity
When you select Desktop it will click the Misc. Tweaks for Disable Power Throttling, and Enable NumLock on Startup because most people will want a ten key??
In Essential Tweaks only Remove MS Apps is the one he wouldn’t do.

Chris spends a bit of time doing the option click selections stuff,
does some IF stuff to run on a checked box,
then we are off to the meat, breaking up the old code

_ Activity History

_ The Debloat. While he was there, https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=3473 decided to comment out #Microsoft.YourPhone
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBhFPW_LuM&t=3496s talks about option new to remove a lot of office bloat )

_ Game DVR. A few rants follow – stuff in the meat badly documented as it was a Pull Request that Chris did not implement correctly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBhFPW_LuM&t=575s documentation
https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=3687 https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=3608 stuff there
https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=3688 Good night what a mess - got his Hibernations in a mess
he says he was too lenient. Actually he was too lazy and made no attempt to check anything or had no idea about his own script and implications of Pull Requests on it.
He is not always sure where things should go. He may think again where some bits go

_ When the Home group 4 script lines are put on a click box, Chris changes the to disable to manual

He got bogged down finding stuff so decided to just go back to the start in Essential Tweaks, and split stuff,
_ starting with O&O

_ 8 lines of the first meat went to Telemetry

_ At WiFi he mentions again how bad Smartphones are: https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=3945

(_ Application suggestions, approx 13 lines, he decides to put in Telemetry)

(_ Activity history already done that one )

_ He is not too sure where WiFi and location tracking should go.

_ He decides to jam all the feedback and all down to the dmwapp stuff into telemetry, ( so the whole fucked up WAP Properties Telemetry issue id missed again ), Telemetry will be the catch all
Remote assistance gets dropped in here also, and Chris rants again that not even Microsoft use it:
https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=4430

_ Restore point goes on its own click button thing.

_ Super Fetch. Crap again that never worked. But it’s not clear if Chris did anything with it?

_ Chris sees some more Hibernation stuff and copies it and is in a mess again. Missed something, second time around: https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=4737 But that is disabling??
( rant first time around was enabling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBhFPW_LuM&t=3685s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBhFPW_LuM&t=3670s )
Right here, Perfect crap https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=4737
No idea what Chris eventually put in the Disable Hibernation Button.

_ Task manager Details. The good Pull request from the last video. Changing windows explorer view details. But he went off and god knows if he did anything with it. ( 20 H1 2257 or 2004 or 21 H2 , showing detail bugged out. Maybe a patch fixed it.
_ Some mix up again with WiFi
( He advises someone to use 2016 version if you want LTSC )
_ He decides to forget all about the tray icons

_ We are into Num Loch again, something about the Add Type windows forms he does not like,
The reason for disabling Num Loch is on some Laptops you may lose some of the right hand keyboard and people don’t know how to bring it back https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=5040
He says his whole script is wrong, he left it at default. Enable should be 2. Disable should be 0
https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=5094
So finally he did it right.

_ Changing Explorer view goes in Telemetry. No one need quick access

_ Power Throttling. Definitely want that on LapTop Two lines taken from # reducing ram via regedit – the rest of that reducing ram stuff he comments with #### Performance Display and memory , and says he will come back but then changees that and puts that and almost everything up to service tweaks in Telemetry !!

_ File extensions goes to a Misc TweakExts button.

** In the chat someone asks … 400K subscribers and only 240 watching. Michael Hathaway answers that Chris uses Bots: https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=5632 , https://i.postimg.cc/sxD2B64m/Chris-uses-Bots.jpg
_ Services ( comes back later – not sure where to put it)
This Chris says works so well, and gives best feedback
( starts talking about Boot Time, the “Issues Thread” after Sam asks )
Does his rant ( in love with issues , hate PR rant https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=5840 Chris has superior knowledge ) , looks at Chat a bit apprehensive. .. Maybe because **
_ Does the services

_ Boot time UTC goes in Misc Tweaks Set time ( Dual Boot is it needed isd )

Looks like he is getting lazy, fed up etc., and says he ignores background apps, and it looks like he ignores a lot of other stuff as well

_ Display for performance. ( Shows the manual way to do it https://i.postimg.cc/3R048b9v/sysdp-cpl.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ZqMvhhPm/sysdp-cpl-Advanced-Performance-Optimum.jpg https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=6194






He starts doing Essential undo by including the previous own button for visual effects ( opposite of last added display for performance. )
A button for all, copies initially just the whole meat from old script.
He just goes through very quickly.

_.____

More laziness as he decides not to touch search

He noticed that Clipboard History was deleted in Essential tweaks ( In services, so he takes from the enable/Undo button the meat and outs it in Undo
"cbdhsvc_48486de" # On 28 April Chris notices that this disables Clipboard History, and puts the undo button stuff in Undo https://youtu.be/xqBhFPW_LuM?t=6505 )




He does a run through, Run Tweaks, and notices he is deleting some apps he personally did not want to: Mindcraft, Whiteboard, xbox
After that he decides to put this ( Remove MS Store Apps check button thing ) in Misc. Tweaks. He finally does that after forgetting to a few times.


He might decide to break out Telemetry a bit more after the stream, and even the Undo also.

He takes out all Result.Text stuff


He starts the install bloating.
Gets lost in looking at software to install, following suggestions in Chat.

Chocolatey, Scoop (invoke… Chocolatey Scoop look into invoke... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBhFPW_LuM&t=10845s )





We are probably at this point at this script from 30 April, 2022:
Share ‘ChrisWPF30April.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/r2nojdn17zm2rfwgnhro89n7xzlogiw6


Because he was not finished, and because of Algorithm God, on Wednesday 4 May…._

9.37 Fixing my biggest failure-nDlGkDENCyM_04 05 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDlGkDENCyM
9.37 Fixing my biggest failure-nDlGkDENCyM_04 05 2022 : https://app.box.com/s/mbm28cfv44c2k1wefblw3p4qlagxlo0 l
_... Fairly short video, Not much new

Code signing, redirect https://youtu.be/nDlGkDENCyM?t=400



Friday , May 6 , second sequential Live stream on new WPF tool!
He starts very well, has a good Agenda, but gets bogged down in mostly boring crap bloating with more winget downloads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KPH608Av4E
9.38 Live - Finalizing New Windows Tool-7KPH608Av4E_06 05 2022 https://drive.google.com/file/d/192_AhMyjJBNEDWlPiKbUZI0hElA-of-i/view?usp=drive_web

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There may be some Do Events in Forms for GUI user interactions

He talks about wanting to do “Templates for feature requests” etc ?

Going forward he says he is concentrating on the install.

Sam asked him again to look at the “Issues Thread”, and Chris says he will at the end….
( Sam Zick $2.00 suggestions issue thread on github , Chris says he will do it before he goes to far )
I think Chris is trying to hide all his incompetence and lax interest in the GitHub win10debloat page which has wasted a lot of peoples time stupidly.

Someone suggests just linking nitenite, her slag’s it off. Says it was Ok for 10 years ago

generic list then make array, better programming in PowerShell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KPH608Av4E&t=3680s

( Chris thinks MS teams is shit, only idiots and those forced to use it use it )




We are probably at this point at this script from Tuesday 10 May, 2022:
Share ‘ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/zvxfm8upvij18kirbh0i6g6qbenlra27

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On Friday the 13th on his Live stream, ( which was on some obscure thing that I have no idea about ) he mentioned at the beginning just briefly the new WPF winutil,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVEivfbJi1g&t=160s , says its not quite there and he will take the unusual step for him of launching a kind of alpha type release tomorrow Saturday 14 May, 2022. (He says he made a soft launch on Wednesday 11 may, 2022 ?)

He gives a way to launch it from PowerShell ( or terminal ) Shell window, ###

__ iwr –useb https://christitus.com/win | iex

iwr : Invoke web request

-useb : Just a kind of way to take the address

https://christitus.com/win : This takes you to raw latest ( at Git Hub ) ( It re directs to https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/main/winutil.ps1 )
( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/main/winutil.ps1 )

| iex : Pipes you into the iex






As announced, Chris uploaded on Saturday 14 May, 2022.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPRv-ATUBe4
9.39 The Best Windows Tool for 2022-tPRv-ATUBe4_14 05 2022 https://app.box.com/s/s6eph5yveshrokjmdqedlarkwiz72nnb

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This is post https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page53#post12803
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page53#post12803
bitly link https://bit.ly/3lohUg2
tinyurl https://tinyurl.com/uwd4u88h





Testing making an exe from the new “WPF” winutil script.( 17 May, 2022 )
So we did this before for the previous script: https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page43#post12695 , which was following Chris’s instructions, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyDMmfvwT2w&t=1436s , https://youtu.be/dyDMmfvwT2w?t=6841


TLDR: What you do
_ Get the ps1 file. Put it somewhere and make a note where it is, (because you will need to give that path in one of the commands later )
_ Open PowerShell, ( as Administrator ), and do the 4 commands, ( and you may also need to answer some prompts along the way with a single character)

So, the full story, I am attempting the same again as I did before with the old script ( https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page43#post12695 ) …..
Here we go
We need the .ps1 File.
Here is a app bix share link to the one Chris uploaded to GutHub and called a “soft release” on Tuesday 10 May, 2022. ( A week later, as I write this, and a few days after the official release video ,( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPRv-ATUBe4 9.39 The Best Windows Tool for 2022-tPRv-ATUBe4_14 05 2022 https://app.box.com/s/s6eph5yveshrokjmdqedlarkwiz72nnb ) , it is still the newest available at GitHuib )
Share ‘ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/zvxfm8upvij18kirbh0i6g6qbenlra27

We need to put that File somewhere and make a note of the full Path, I have it at
D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF\ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.ps 1 ( https://i.postimg.cc/sf0KLvm9/Have-10-May-ps1-file.jpg )

I open PowerShell as Administrator https://i.postimg.cc/tCb2hhmJ/Open-Power-Shell-As-Admin.jpg

I do these 4 basic commands:
cd 'D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF'
Set-ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted
( I get asked some stuff and answer with the options something like yes to all )
install-module ps2exe
( I get asked some stuff a couple of times , and answer with something like yes and yes to all)
ps2exe .\ ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.ps1 .\ ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.exe
The end result is that an exe appears: https://i.postimg.cc/brxg7Jdq/All-went-well-makind-exe-from-WPFwinutil.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/Bb9N7DSh/exe-appeared.jpg



If I compare
_ what I get from double clicking on that exe file
, with
_ what I get when hitting the play button with the ps1 file in the ISE, ( https://i.postimg.cc/9MvQqXm5/Hit-da-Play-button-in-ISE.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/L5L6kd5q/Hit-Play-button-in-ISE.jpg )
, then the results look at first glance to be identical: https://i.postimg.cc/CxP7T9Mn/WPFwinutil-from-ISE-run-and-self-made-exe.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CxP7T9Mn/WPFwinutil-from-ISE-run-and-self-made-exe.jpg (https://postimg.cc/VJtnXGCz)
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Here is the screenshot of the full commands and actions taken in the PowerShell window, ( and below is the exe I made !!! )
__https://i.postimg.cc/pp4Khby0/All-went-well-makind-exe-from-WPFwinutil.jpg (https://postimg.cc/pp4Khby0)

In this window below I have copied the entire text from that screenshot, and the text in Blue is what I actually typed in – that is 4 basic commands and 3 single character answers. A , J and A


Windows PowerShell
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Lernen Sie das neue plattformübergreifende PowerShell kennen – https://aka.ms/pscore6
PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> cd 'D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF'
PS D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF> Set-ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted

Ausführungsrichtlinie ändern
Die Ausführungsrichtlinie trägt zum Schutz vor nicht vertrauenswürdigen Skripts bei. Wenn Sie die Ausführungsrichtlinie
ändern, sind Sie möglicherweise den im Hilfethema "about_Execution_Policies" unter
"https:/go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=135170" beschriebenen Sicherheitsrisiken ausgesetzt. Möchten Sie die
Ausführungsrichtlinie ändern?
[J] Ja [A] Ja, alle [N] Nein [K] Nein, keine [H] Anhalten [?] Hilfe (Standard ist "N"): A
PS D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF> install-module ps2exe

Der NuGet-Anbieter ist erforderlich, um den Vorgang fortzusetzen.
PowerShellGet erfordert die NuGet-Anbieterversion 2.8.5.201 oder höher für die Interaktion mit NuGet-basierten
Repositorys. Der NuGet-Anbieter muss in "C:\Program Files\PackageManagement\ProviderAssemblies" oder
"C:\Users\acer\AppData\Local\PackageManagement\Prov iderAssemblies" verfügbar sein. Sie können den NuGet-Anbieter auch
durch Ausführen von 'Install-PackageProvider -Name NuGet -MinimumVersion 2.8.5.201 -Force' installieren. Möchten Sie
den NuGet-Anbieter jetzt durch PowerShellGet installieren und importieren lassen?
[J] Ja [N] Nein [H] Anhalten [?] Hilfe (Standard ist "J"): J

Nicht vertrauenswürdiges Repository
Sie installieren die Module aus einem nicht vertrauenswürdigen Repository. Wenn Sie diesem Repository vertrauen, ändern
Sie dessen InstallationPolicy-Wert, indem Sie das Set-PSRepository-Cmdlet ausführen. Möchten Sie die Module von
'PSGallery' wirklich installieren?
[J] Ja [A] Ja, alle [N] Nein [K] Nein, keine [H] Anhalten [?] Hilfe (Standard ist "N"): A
PS D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF> ps2exe .\ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.ps1 .\ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.exe
PS2EXE-GUI v0.5.0.27 by Ingo Karstein, reworked and GUI support by Markus Scholtes


Reading input file D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF\ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.ps 1
Compiling file...

Output file D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF\ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.ex e written
PS D:\Temp Opt\GitHub\ChrisNewWPF>




Summary: Recap What you do
_ Get the ps1 file. Put it somewhere and make a note where it is, (because you will need to give that path in one of the commands later )
_ Open PowerShell, ( as Administrator ), and do the 4 commands, ( and you may also need to answer some prompts along the way with a single character)



!!! The Final made exe:
Share ‘ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.exe’ https://app.box.com/s/x6smoishgjjzurpo5of7jhxxl1pbuvni

made from this ps1 File:
Share ‘ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/zvxfm8upvij18kirbh0i6g6qbenlra27

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This is post https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page53#post12804
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page53#post12804

https://i.postimg.cc/0NrV5zWj/WPF-10-17-and-17-May.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/945dJQjH/WPF-10-17-and-17-May.jpg (https://postimg.cc/945dJQjH)






Some Pull Request stuff done 17 May, 2022
( aka another GitHub confused catastrophe Issues and Pull requests are stacking up, and Chris is already starting to get in a mess and loose control. ( He has introduced some Nursery school type templates people have to confirm to, which doesn’t help either: He has implemented just some of the Pull Requests, and is perhaps just randomly tackling some of the issues, and at the same time introducing some poxy dopey changes.
I think Chris may be in danger of becoming the thing he swore to destroy….)


Summary of changes, all in one go on 17May, ( or maybe (i) , (ii) , and then (iii) ):
_ (i) Carterpersall tidied up the services and the comments on them, and did some other formatting of script indents
_ (ii) Chris did some changes to the xml ?? https://i.postimg.cc/fR8Hhcv1/Git-Hub17-May-Update-XML.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/bZ20x2WR/Git-Hub17-May-Update-XML.jpg (https://postimg.cc/bZ20x2WR)

See https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA?p=16495&viewfull=1#post16495
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA/page8#post16495

decoupling xaml and ps1
_ (iii) This next change calls up XML thing from a separate, MainWindow.xaml https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/main/MainWindow.xaml
Share ‘MainWindow_xami - StandAloneXML17May.txt’ https://app.box.com/s/lrf37fuhegad3jfgjltzlmckmw33lpj2
Share ‘MainWindow.xaml’ https://app.box.com/s/3b6v4zmgb6njamh6khyqe44zpk7cmaak
https://i.postimg.cc/fR8Hhcv1/Git-Hub17-May-Update-XML.jpg






It’s all a total mess. It looks like he changed something he was never using to update it to what he was using: It seems that the full script from 10 May, the full script from just before the last change (ii) on 17May, and the stand alone XLM in change (iii) all have the same XML stuff. (The big mystery seems to be for now where and what the previous XML used by Chris in (ii) has anything to do with anything anywhere. Possibly just another GitHub confused catastrophe















Share ‘ChrisWPFTuesday10May2022.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/end0t4spyl119iiixw9va922hdft4icx


Mistery Red and Green stuff https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/commit/a4019d74ec3fca44208eb3b621d6f8ac9bee5a64
Share ‘ChrisWPF17May2022(ii).ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/yrzoikeg9coggyt99ofin18f2cxkf849
Share ‘May10-17XML.txt’ https://app.box.com/s/ykynprd9a3ra4w7kcif4h5ziubwktw2t
Share ‘May17XML.txt’ https://app.box.com/s/gsqjpfmmqwpadmu8wchjrlfrqxwrrg6e



The new thng thing (iii) , https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/commit/7d4727b51be22ecfbff953357789e4d5d2923b63
https://i.postimg.cc/fR8Hhcv1/Git-Hub17-May-Update-XML.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/90y83sxB/The-new-thing-iii.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/vHd27HB2/The-new-thng-thing-iii.jpg
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/main/MainWindow.xaml
Share ‘MainWindow_xami - StandAloneXML17May.txt’ https://app.box.com/s/lrf37fuhegad3jfgjltzlmckmw33lpj2
Share ‘MainWindow.xaml’ https://app.box.com/s/3b6v4zmgb6njamh6khyqe44zpk7cmaak

Share ‘ChrisWPF17May2022.ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/lrzeyx55hjksedzrr649snrxfmfyvtkm
Share ‘ChrisWPF17May2022(iii).ps1’ https://app.box.com/s/7u4lxbwrgubxgf37tduzx0e22s49alvf

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Some Issues / Pull requests and other GitHub chaos confusion
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/pull/3/commits/5dc54a39632f5365461f88cafed0dff82da4ab46
Changing the PowerThrottlingOff key previously errored as the directory PowerThrottling does not exist by default
- Fixed by adding a check in two places for the PowerThrottling directory, and if it does not exist it creates it,
If(!(Test-Path "HKCU:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Power Throttling")){New-Item -Path "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power" -Name "PowerThrottling"}

From Chris…. commented May 13, 2022 https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/pull/3
The main issue with this PR is that it simply fails to do anything with Power Throttling by removing that path lines. A cleaner way is the complete removal of Power Throttling all together and the removal of it from the GUI. … I'm inclined to just remove the entire bit of code as it seems to have hurt more than helped. So I will close this PR and submit a new version with the full removal of Power Throttling.

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Page54
https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page54
This post https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2408-Windows-10-and-Office-Excel/page54#post12904

May 2023
Getting lost, a year behind in May 2023, and my main Vista machine is dying.

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A bit of orientiering
Docs for last few sides, ( Previous last date looked at ):

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Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

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Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later

Obtaining and Maintaining a stable Excel. Operating System Considerations
An older Operating System and Microsoft Office from around 2003-2010 can be a good stable solution for limited use of Excel, such as for your own use with minimum sharing.
Security / Virus issues
Relying on updates for security issues is probably not a good idea, ( http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2336-Excel-and-XP-Operating-System-Tests-(proc-entry-pt-quot-GetDataFormEX-quot-not-found-in-the-DLL-quot-KERNEL32)?p=11160&viewfull=1#post11160)
Buying a good virus protection can be one option.
A fairly simple sounding alternative option would be to do the common sense approach of once in a while "wiping the slate clean".
In other words, …_
_ keep most of your personal data, and as much as technically possible of everything else, on external hard drives, USB sticks, etc. , so as to minimise what is stored on the computer's internal hard drive, and
_ keep back ups of everything, including the Operating system itself.
_ _... So then once in a while you can re install the operating system and other basic software on your computer.
Re installing an Operating system may not be as simple as it may be suggested
Many experienced professionals recommend this. They present this as the common sense simple approach to clear out any unwanted clutter on your computer, both the usual build up that seems to always occur, as well as any bad things such as viruses etc. , that may have crept in without your knowledge.
I am sceptic, if so many professionals actually do it, at least in recent years…
It appears that in the practice, doing such a wipe clean, is becoming more and more difficult. There are many small problems that seem to occur, which an experienced professional might sort out by instinct , hardly noticing that he does it. For an average user, these problems may not be solvable.
In addition, newer computers are becoming like many consumer projects: The manufacturer tries to make them last a few years. Replacing hardware and re installing software is therefore becoming increasingly difficult.

Instillation disk are rarely supplied in recent years.
It was common practice in early personal computer days to get a full set of Operating system disks with a computer. For some strange reason, many professionals seem to cling on to the belief that this is the case. Possibly in a professional environment there are always somewhere both the disks and expertise to use them, so it is just assumed that nothing has changed.
In actual fact , instillation discs are rarely supplied anymore with new computers, and even if you obtain them, they likely won't work… manufacturers increasingly try to actively hamper the possibility of re installing the operating system.
I don't think it is possible to give clear instructions anymore on how to install an Operating system.
I will present a full example, explaining in detail, and make an attempt to make it as general a solution as possible.

DVD / CD Brennen / Burn / ISO Burn
Most of us will recognise something which might be called a CD DVD or disk, and things like disc drives and process done with them. These things and processes have been widely in use for over 25 years. We refer to them frequently. But for some strange reason hardly anyone really knows or understands them fully. There seem to be a few strange mysteries and secrets. Possibly this is so that things like instillation disks are not too wildly made and distributed.
In simple common uses, sometimes simple copying and using of files from one medium to a CD or DVD disc will work, sometimes it won't. Often this is overlooked. It often is not noticed as different systems may actually do different things when the same software or command is done.
The best I can make out, in the absence of finding anyone in the world who knows for sure, ( it may be impossible for most people to know for sure as commercial secrets are involved:
CD or DVD
This is basically the same physical thing. CD came first and there is generally less flexibility in compatibility in using other things or different manufacturers versions of CD. The DVD came later, making use of improved technology, and at the same time some attempt was made to make certain aspects standard to improve the flexibility and compatibility with other things and different manufacturers DVDs.
So in simple terms, the DVD is likely to be better than a CD or may be needed to make something work which could not on a CD , for example, as DVD will have a large storage capacity , as newer storage media almost always do improve that aspect…
Other technical reason why a DVD must be used instead of a CD may be hidden in the secrets of the processes which may be used for a particular usage.

Burn and Save Variations
I expect what process actually happens is hidden in industrial secrets. What is physically done may vary from one system to another and/or from what software is used, even if at first glance the same process and software appears to be done and used. So I can only make an approximate answer.
Either as a complete simple process, or as an early part of a more full process, some light image producing process , that is to say a process physically not strongly changing physically the disc may give something that some reading devices can read. A more complete full process will possibly use such an image as a sort of template/ schablon / set of instructions to create deeper cutting / etching into the disc. The more full processes can be thought in simple terms as like cutting the final grooves in an old gramophone vinyl record , ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record ). The more full process will generally be called "Burning"
But there is not always a clear distinction between the simple processes and the full "Burning" processes. Consequently you can never be sure what you have , and how it may or may not be either readable or re writable in different systems. You can even experience different results when using the same software on two different hardware systems which have very similar specifications.

ISO Burn
The commonly referred to process of "ISO Burn" ads another dimension to the confusion and imprecise definitions and explanations of what is going on.
You need to consider what ISO Burn is about in trying to understand , create, and use instillation disks
When something is saved, stored, etc. what actually goes on and the final result may be varied and , at least to some extent, is subject to commercial secrets. Amongst other things, some efficient way of organising "where" things go may be employed. This will vary greatly from one system to another.
For some reason, which once again may have some commercial secrets associated with it, in order to do an instillation, the information need to be organised on the storage media in a specific way.
In my example I will be considering CD/DVD discs. An instillation disc will typically need to be , what could approximately be regarded as a full final disk with the information held in specific "places" on the disk.
The start point in making an instillation disk would be to get a "normal" file which contains all the information required. Such a file has a predetermined form, but can be approximately regarded as a normal file, which "obeys" the normal rules and conventions when being passed around or copied. It can be regarded as a normal data file, or possibly more correctly a number of Files bundled together
ISO File and what to do with it
The file type used for this has conventionally the extension .iso . It seems to be a closely kept secret, or else everyone has forgotten, exactly how that came about and what exactly it means. Very similar to the word ActiveX, frequently used but rarely really clearly defined. It may be tied up with a convention or sets of conventions that started to be kept secret as time went on. It could be that a so called iso disk is a more fundamental all encompassing file which includes some basic instructions determining exactly how and where things are stored, where's part of the similar information on such a fundamental file may already be included (hidden) in a system to determine how that system stores files and data.
So ISO would be some internationally agreed standard. But only in a so called "iso file" would you nave some fundamental information conforming to the convention, but which in most systems you would not have access to.
So to get an iso file is like getting hold of the software to refresh or re install or repair some software in any product to which a large amount of software is present. A typical user can never be sure exactly what is in there. Recently Microsoft have been making available iso files. It is a good guess that they have put something in there they are keen to find its way into someone's computer…
Once you have a file, you need to find some way to use that to make an instillation disc. Un surprisingly, Microsoft have also recently been presenting information to assist in doing this…
Alternatively some software is available. This one has been recommended by Hans, so is very likely a good option:
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200058
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01


Vista ISO File
One good source of an ISO file is sometimes computer magazines.
( Media Fire https://www.drwindows.de/windows-vista-allgemein/8505-hilfe-brauche-vista-dvd-415.html#post1671100
All PC World http://allpcworld.com/windows-vista-iso-free-download-32-bit-64-bit/ )
They are large files and will typically take some time to download.
Vista ISO download.JPG , Vista x86 32bit download.JPG : https://imgur.com/hTRNOEM , https://imgur.com/PIWk5Wu
I downloaded earlier, and re uploaded to a file sharing site:
Windows_Vista_32bit All PC World.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/YvMXoyEx
WindowsVista_x86 Media Fire.iso : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/IpMXouPy

The files can be saved anywhere.

Working Example of making an installation disc in next post



Ref:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-major-difference-between-a-CD-and-a-DVD
https://ask.metafilter.com/168458/Copy-Windows-Install-Discs-for-Backup
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later



Window Install Disc for Backup
Review..
At this point it is worth trying to make clear what we are doing. We want to be able to "wipe or computer clean" by re installing the operation system. It is easy to get confused with other things: There are various ways to "back up / restore / recover / repair a computer without the more thorough re installing of the operating system, ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28618#p221516 ) . The terminology gets somewhat mixed up, and there are very likely various vested commercial interest in not bringing too much clarity. At least two of these vested commercial interest I can think of are:
_ A Software company such as Microsoft will understandably not want to make it too easy to produce the thing that enables someone to install an Operating System ;
and
_ there are clear examples of a discs on sale which could be mistaken as an Instillation disc when they are in fact a simple disc to aid in one of the more simple restore/ recovery processes.

Instillation disc or back up Operating System disc…
Strictly speaking an instillation disc usually can/ must / should, in my opinion, be purchased, either on its own, or as was more commonly the case, as part of the package in the purchase of a new computer. The important and understandable reasonable implication is that you pay for the licence, typically in the form of a valid code or key. A typical 25 digit code or key is used by Microsoft.
So we could say the following…
__Instillation disc = Windows installing aid disc + Valid Licence Key
( You would typically be prompted to give the Key earlier on in the installing process which is usually the process of the disc, or software on it, "running" )
The licence code or key can typically be seen on a small sticker , at least on older computers and lap tops. The working example I am using is an older Lap Top, Acer Aspire 6530G , and on the bottom the sticker can be seen: ( Vistas Home Premium Sticker.jpg: https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA https://imgur.com/KNUzKeA )
So, we have the licence, but we don't have the Windows installing aid disc, which is sometime referred to as a Window Install Disc for Backup. Occasionally it might be referred to loosely as the instillation disc. As ever the used terms are very imprecise

The start point is the ISO File.
Vista ISO File
Here is one I prepared earlier, as discussed in the previous post:
___ To follow later … problems with uploading ***********
The file can be saved anywhere

"Burn an ISO"
I followed and remade some notes used by me a year or two ago, to successfully produce a Windows 7 instillation disc: http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=25735#p200065 : Two things were likely to be necessary with older systems
_ downloading a software to "Burn"
_ The "Burn" itself

ImgBurn Download
Here are Typical steps, which you will be prompted for after running this exe file , https://app.box.com/s/gywkah44z366e7gktqzaulj3nq27ac01 , which I obtained from here http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe ImgBrn is a free software, for doing things with discs, which is typically recommended. You may be able to find an alternative, or with newer systems you may have the option already. But in the Latter case you might find that other things are done / put on the final disc…. As always it is difficult to know exactly what is going on as things are hidden for commercial reasons and interests…
The actual steps you experience in an ImgBurn Download may be different or in a slightly different order. Most steps require a simple clicking of further, …
but take care that at some point there may be steps which could cause you to accidentally agree to install additional software that you do not want: Sometime at such steps something may be checked or not. You may or may not be required to check or uncheck to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. Or you may be required to click on an option such as Custom Instillation , followed by then a process of checking or un-checking things to avoid unwanted additional software being downloaded. It is common practice for this to be varied by the software provider, so be careful at the points like those shown in !! Purple !! read carefully at those steps to determine what you need to do to prevent getting extra software… or agree to have it , as you choose.

ImgBrn Licence Agreement.JPG : https://imgur.com/4dn8SG9
ImgBrn Choose Component.JPG : https://imgur.com/o4h6wQT
ImgBrn Choose Folder.JPG : https://imgur.com/6yuwAzs
The next step allows you to choose where most of the software is placed. It will usually suggest on the same main drive as your operating system. If you choose an alternative place , then some things will still be placed on that main drive: it is unlikely then that you could copy from an alternative place of your choice and have all the software: Some things which you cannot easily access must go on the main drive. However, if you re install the software at a later date and do have some of the software on an alternative place such as an external storing device, you might be able to substitute the previous software to effectively change the new installed software to work the same as a previous version. But if for example, after a re installing of the operating system , you still wanted the ImgBrn Software then you would need to re download to get the parts which must be stored on the main drive. To avoid this, there would likely be the need to have some special ISO files and instillation disc for the software, and would involve a lot of expertise which might be subject to commercial secrets.
ImgBrn Choose Install Location.JPG : https://imgur.com/oviVfpP
!! Additional Software !! https://imgur.com/cAYipXV , __!! https://imgur.com/OHreXUt !!
Installing:…
ImgBrn Installing (May ask to be notified of updates).JPG : https://imgur.com/ltLKIIe
ImgBrn Installing Showing details.JPG : https://imgur.com/4LspV8Z
ImgBrn Finish.JPG : https://imgur.com/EChG843
ImgBrn Instal finished.JPG : https://imgur.com/IeH2gE5 , http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=installation_complete

To "iso burn" goes something like this
Here the approximate steps
You will need a DVD of the currently available 4.7GB type. The DVD must be new, virgin, and do not insert it immediately. For this working example I chose a disc drive, I: , available one of my computers. ( This computer is a dual Boot system with Windows 7 64Bit professional on the C: drive, and on the F: drive is Windows 7 32 Bit Home Premium. ( http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31638 ). I am running and using the latter for my ImgBrn experiments
I disc drive open but dont yet put disk in.JPG : https://imgur.com/5pvzoSo
If you do insert it then your computer may format it in which case the "iso burn" won't work. You may need to adjust default settings on your computer to stop an automatic formatting of the disc. If at any stage you are offered any options to take with the disc , or any windows appear associated with the disc, but which do not appear to have been generated by the ImgBrn software, then ignore them.
Run ImgBrn Ignoor prompt outside ImgBrn.JPG : https://imgur.com/xxgRnzZ
The start point is usually to double click on a ImgBrn desktop icon that appears after a successful download of the software. Other wise you may be able to find it through some search through all programs
Search for ImgBrn program.JPG : https://imgur.com/LbdmrGP
Typically two windows come up, the main Window and a Log window, and the program is now effectively running. The following steps my vary slightly on your version of ImgBrn.
Usually the option we need is shown as the first one, soince that is the most common usage of the ImgBrn Software.
Run ImgBrn Write image file to disc.JPG : https://imgur.com/HjtMp7L
Run ImgBrn search or drag in ISO File.JPG : https://imgur.com/ncd4nuD
Run ImgBrn Click to Write.JPG : https://imgur.com/5hLTu6R
Run ImgBrn Writing.JPGs : https://imgur.com/doyjL6r , https://imgur.com/AZyiSX3 , https://imgur.com/4l2cIsk
Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/qLRzqvQ

During the "ISO burn" , a window may come up showing details. It might be useful to make a copy of this,
either
saving as a Log file, _Run ImgBrn Save Log.JPG : https://imgur.com/WRXFFmm , https://imgur.com/WDjOXha
or
simply copying the text in the Log Window and saving to a text file.

Here are the sample files from two runs of ImgBrn
Log from Media Fire ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
Log from All PC World ISO to disc.txt : https://app.box.com/s/gv0wst1xipzzv9hc2iaioi0smncof7av
ImgBurn.log : https://app.box.com/s/8vukad6fyy1he4pynqr2ontu9lsftnnu

If the option is given somehow to "open" , such as may be generated outside of the ImgBrn program, After Run ImgBrn Complete.JPG : https://imgur.com/1jQoUoF , then we can examine the contents, before making any attempt to use them for an operating system installation.
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open.JPG : https://imgur.com/QD5KRpZ
Alternatively, a right mouse click option may allow the disc to be "opened/ looked into"
After Run ImgBrn Complete Open by right mouse click option.JPG : https://imgur.com/dRVh5wZ ,


Final discs
Here are some final discs for comparison.
Made as detailed in this post using two different ISOs :
Open Media Fire.JPG : https://imgur.com/31lRsyf
Open All PC World.JPG : https://imgur.com/J7KTWMN
Purchased…. Window Install Disc for Backup :
An alternative is to purchases a disc. These are becoming very cheap.
Here some I bought privately
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 32 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/4QCEK1Z
Open Purchased Vista Ultra 64 Bit.JPG : https://imgur.com/FcOuR3f
Here one I bought over ebay for a couple of pounds
https://www.ebay.de/itm/WINDOWS-VISTA-INSTALL-REINSTALL-RECOVER-REPAIR-PC-DVD-ALL-VERSIONS-32-64-Bit-NEW/272766353846?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Open Purchased Vista Key Software.JPG : https://imgur.com/PKa5eYz



Vista Instillation Attempts
See next post….



ref
https://www.lifewire.com/where-can-i-download-windows-vista-2626314

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Vista Instillation Attempts
The working example is an older Vista Acer Aspire 6530G Lap Top. The original 32 Bit Home Premium Vista Key is still on a sticker underneath. But it has a later Windows 7 Installed, as the only operating system on it, on the C: drive. There appears to a second large drive, D: , with some contents on it: some pictures.
D and C before.JPG : https://imgur.com/yGrIBNW
I copied the contents from the D: drive to a new Folder somewhere on the C: drive
Move from D.JPGs : https://imgur.com/8CrRzHo , https://imgur.com/MpCPTuF , https://imgur.com/neaLaFB
Clear a drive, ( if possible).
As a pre requisite I decide to clear / format the D: drive, as I think this has the effect of emptying the drive completely. I am guessing that this is a good idea. (This would not be possible if I only had one drive, as I could not clear the drive I am using, or it might cause a chaos if I try)…
Clearing by Formatting.JPGs : https://imgur.com/n6o73Bd , https://imgur.com/616jiyR , https://imgur.com/TPqrwqE ,
So finally , I see an empty D: drive
After Finished Formatting of D.JPG : https://imgur.com/7Mq2u3l


Attempt 1 : Key Software Disc
I tried fist the purchased from a company called Key Software. It was supposed to be a Universal one for all versions of Vista
I put the disc in,
Put Key Software disc in.JPG : https://imgur.com/p1j1VIj
After double clicking on it in the windows explorer, I did not get too far, and got a couple of errors:
https://imgur.com/ZfvDLCP
E: \ Sources \ SPWIZENG.DLL is either not intended to run on Windows or contains an error. Reinstall the program using the original instillation media, or contact your system administrator or software vendor for assistance.
https://imgur.com/fQSNr2r
The file 'autorun.dll' could not be loaded or is corrupted. Setup cannot continue. Error code is [0xC1]

Attempt 2 : Self made disc: from Media Fire ISO to disc
Put disc in and double clicked on it in the windows explorer.
First I was asked if I wanted to check compatibility. https://imgur.com/DOPRPt2 On trying this I was simply taken to A Windows 10 download site, so I tried again rejecting the offer to check compatibility.
The 25 digit key was then asked for. I typed it in. Either with or without the automatic checking over the internet checked, this step failed.
I was able to continue without giving a key, and told that I might need to add it later..
I was then offered all Vista versions. I chose 32 Bit Home Premium
I had to then choose User defined instillation, or else it would not give me the option to continue.
It offered me either the C: or D: drive. An important step then here was for me to choose the D: drive, as I did not want to remove the currently working Windows 7 on the C: drive.
The instillation then started.
There were _5 steps shown:
_ Windows data would copied
This took some time but was completed
_Data would expanded
At 22% of this step , a re start occurred and then it completed. It took a while
_ Functions would be installed
This took some time but was completed
_Updates would be installed
This was completed very quickly. The computer tried to re started, and offered me Win7 or Vista. But it did not wait very long . I was not quick enough to react, but Vista was selected as default. It restarted
_ The instillation would be completed
A re start was attempted. Once again it offered me Win7 or Vista. It waited longer this time. But as Vista was selected by default, I did nothing, and a re start was done

This seemed to be the main installation finished at this point.
I was given the option to change the language, time zone, and keyboard country. I left them all at the offered default of Germany.
I had to give a Username, which I gave as ELSTO. A password was optional, so I did not give one.
I had to give the computer a name. I left it as the default offered of ELSTON-PC
I had three update options offered. I chose the last which was to be asked again later.
I had the chance to check the settings for the language, time zone, and keyboard country.
It asked me if I wanted to make a start. So I agreed.
The Power/ performance of the computer was checked.
The first start was prepared, and made

From then on, by start I have the option of Windows 7 or Vista. Vista seems to work well.
My first problem is that the LAN internet socket appears not to be recognised. And clicking on the available Internet Explorer I get the error that no internet connection can be made………

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…

Some related Posts:



Another stumbling point to a Vista instillation. DiscDrive not recognising a disc when put in
(Possibly also connected external disc drive not showing at all)
In this case a machine (Acer Aspire 6530G) , originally Vista, but updated to Windows 7, ( and a new extra hard drive installed, currently holding a large amount of pictures)
It appears to show the disc drive , either the internal oone or one connected via a USB, but strangely nothing is shown if I insert a disc.
If you further navigate around the File Explorer / Windows / Device Manager you may see a yellow exclamation point and possibly some of the errors talked about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs :
MicrosoftSymbol Computer DiscDrive.JPG : https://imgur.com/4J1WrXX , https://imgur.com/IurxW5Y
DiscDrive RightMouseClick Propertes.JPG : https://imgur.com/Eq11qrB
DiscDriveProperties Hardware Properties.JPG : https://imgur.com/gR53BPk

I seemed to have an error like.. The device driver for this hardware can not be loaded. The driver may be damaged or missing. (Code 39)….


At the above link, ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs ) , the advice is, on average quite , but a bit varied. A lot of steps seem to be missing.
An example of following instructions here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314060/your-cd-or-dvd-drive-is-not-recognized-by-windows-or-other-programs
Here is an example of an attempt to follow it which eventually brought success. In the example I found it useful to be looking at in parallel both the main Lap tops own internal CD DVD Drive, and also an external one connected through one of the Lap Tops USB sockets.
Method 1:
I am not sure why in order to get to Hardware and Sound , the initial steps are given as this:
Windows logo key + R

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

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Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

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Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

[DocAElstein]

Notes to be edited later…


Some related Posts:
http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2242-Excel-2003-ActiveX-controls-embedded-in-worksheet-not-working-then-can%E2%80%99t-even-insert-them-*SOLVED*?p=10922&viewfull=1#post10922
http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewforum.php?f=20


Extended Monitors, VB Editor and Spreadsheet in convenient parallel view…
It is not consistent. Here are some ways that work for me

_1 Getting to Anzeige Options in Control Panel
Once you get to the "Anzeige options", a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. will usually get you what you want

1a) Try a sequence something like these
MicrosoftSymbloToBottomLeft Systemsteuerung :
https://imgur.com/RGeAPs3
Darstellung and Anpassung or ClassicView then Anpassung
https://imgur.com/89tGH5D and https://imgur.com/P5XbzBp or https://imgur.com/EQ2mBhY then https://imgur.com/2gOSvpH
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/Mo66YN6 , https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then you are at
Extend Desktop :
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

or
1b) a sequence something like these. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop
Anpassung from right click on space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/urpbAkz
Anzeige :
https://imgur.com/hvJPQQZ
Then, as in 1a) , you are at
Extend Desktop:
https://imgur.com/fDjQqDi ,
and can play around

_2 getting at Graphic Options
I have seen this sort of alternative option way also. It starts from right clicking on any free space on your desktop, ( the same start as in 1b) ) . Sometimes this worked when for some unknown reason the other ways, 1) stopped working
Grafik Properties from right click on any free space on Desktop:
https://imgur.com/E8iNcXj
Grafik Dropdown Desktops and Anzeigen :
https://imgur.com/rYfI8Gl
Once at this point , some experimenting as before , a bit of fiddling around , clicking on to activate, dragging the shown Monitors, saying OK, etc.. , will usually get you what you want
Grafik Dropdown Desktop-Properties:
https://imgur.com/NkMBuwl
Grafik Properties Desktop Resolution:
https://imgur.com/KVADmr2

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